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==Concerning the Elderly==
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== Changes to apps pages ==
  
Abandoned apps that have been obsoleted by more stable/featureful ones should be removed from the list and relocated to a retirement category where they will be given prescription drugs and sit around talking about how nobody ever visits them. I'm sure most people can think of at least a few abandoned apps that no longer belong. [[User:Flark|Flark]] 07:14, 9 July 2008 (CEST)
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Although they make the apps pages look neater, it makes it nearly impossible to monitor updated apps. Many app developers do not announce app updates on the Homebrew Updates page, and subscribing to the Special:RecentChanges RSS feed gives far too many pages. The only other way would be to subscribe to the RSS feed for every single app, and that's obviously a bit silly. Maybe the layout of that page should be discussed, or at least a version field re-added. [[User:Muzer|Muzer]] 19:23, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
:I agree, Old apps need to be relocated to a special page and not deleted, in case someone finds a use for them again. [[User:Initrd.gz|--Initrd.gz]] 5:04 PM, 15 August 2009 (CDT)
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: The apps pages were becoming way too unwieldly, so this was the solution that Blooper and I came up with to deal with the bloat. Versions aren't a good indicator that an app has been updated, as they don't tell you when an app was last updated, unless you're following that app closely. '''If''' anything is to be added, I would suggest a Last Updated column. --[[User:Tantric|Tantric]] 20:06, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
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Why did you delete the download and source columns, it takes time to check every new app to just see if its source code is released.--[[User:Salehhamadeh|Sal3000]] 05:55, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
  
==date column?==
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== Other languages ==
it would be useful (to me) to have a "last updated" column with month/day/year so i can see what's changed since i looked last without going through the wiki revisions - unless there's another way to do this that i'm not aware of
 
  
== Idea:  Add peripherals to each table ==
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Since the translations of these lists are often out of date, i suggest making this english page look as follows (or something similar), and remove the lists in other languages alltogether.
  
Improvement to compare similar emulators.  Shrink peripheral icons to not be obtrusive.
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{| class="apptable sortable"
:There is already the [[Homebrew apps/Peripheral info]] page for that. I plan to merge that page into the individual list pages so they are used and updated more often. --[[User:Blooper4912|Blooper4912]]
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! width="25%" | Title
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! Article language
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! Description
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! width="20%" | Author
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| [[Homebrew Channel]]
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| [[Homebrew Channel|en]] | [[Homebrew Channel/es|es]] | [[Homebrew Channel/ja|ja]] | [[Homebrew Channel/it|it]] | [[Homebrew Channel/nl|nl]] | [[Homebrew Channel/fi|fi]] | [[Homebrew Channel/de|de]] | [[Homebrew Channel/fr|fr]]
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| Installs the Wii Homebrew Channel onto the System Menu
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| Team Twiizers
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== Notable Applications? ==
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It would be even cooler, if the lists in other languages could just update themselves, but i dont think thats possible...
I think that homebrew browser and dragon media player are not in the same league with the others on the list. I would either remove them from the list or add Starfall, MPlayer (Team Twiizers), ftpii and Quake to it. Maybe the best thing would be to have a "notable apps" on every homebrew category page? [[User:Xyrion|Xyrion]] 00:35, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
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:Personally, I'd rather flat-out remove it. Aside from the obvious like the Twilight Hack, who's to say what's "notable" and what isn't? - <font color="#de0033">[[User:Toumei|トウメイ]]</font> 03:47, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
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--[[User:Mechaelvis|Mechaelvis]] 19:13, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
::Good point. [[User:Xyrion|Xyrion]] 09:54, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
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::I Agree with Toumei. It should be removed totally. Either that or make a ranking system and base the content by that. --[[User:Initrd.gz|Initrd.gz]] 23:36, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
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Ugh. That would still leave the description untranslated. So I don't like the idea. These lists won't be that outdated anymore because they just include title, description, author - and not download, version, updated, etc. --[[User:Tantric|Tantric]] 19:18, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
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:Point taken, but it's more when a new application is released, sometimes it takes a long time before it's added to the other languages lists. --[[User:Mechaelvis|Mechaelvis]] 14:15, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
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:: True, but it takes even longer for it to be translated, if at all. And if the app page isn't translated, and the list is half translated, is there any point at all? --[[User:Tantric|Tantric]] 15:23, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
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::: You are correct. If a german page links to a page that hasn't been created in german, should it link to the english article or the non-existing german article? [[User:Mechaelvis|Mechaelvis]] 09:12, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
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== Demo category missing ==
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We left out the demos tab on this page. I don't see a reason why someone looking for Wii applications would not want to see those listed on this page (WiiEarth, headtracking demo, etc).--[[User:Michael|Michael]] 13:26, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
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: They were moved. They are accessible from the main homepage, under the "Development" section. --[[User:Tantric|Tantric]] 16:50, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
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::In my opinion, the demos belong here just as much as the "joke" apps do, or the "math" apps do, as examples. By placing the demos where the avergage user would not look, we're inadvertently diminishing the work of the demo writers. If the only purpose of the demo is to demo code or some technique related to coding, I 100% agree these should be in the dev section, but that's not solely the case here.--[[User:Michael|Michael]] 20:04, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
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:I have added a link to the demos to the linkbar. <tt>--[[User:Blooper4912|<font style="color:#FF6C0A;">'''Blooper'''</font>]] [[User talk:Blooper4912|<font style="color:black;"><small>(Talk)</small></font>]]</tt> 22:10, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
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== Question ==
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Could you add development apps to the to linkbar; And i was wondering if you could give me a link to the template of the app table thanks? - [[User:Gamewizard71|Gamewizard71]] 04:27, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
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: No and no. Don't touch the template please and thanks. --[[User:Tantric|Tantric]] 04:46, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
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I got a question. I downloaded WINTERMAN, a game in the applications. And I don't know how to play it. As in, start it up.... is there a folder I'm suppose to put it in? 'Cause I have it in the Apps folder currently. Thanks. --[[User:Randoman|Randoman]] 22:00, 8 June 2011 (CEST)
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== Difference between homebrew applications - utilities and system tools ==
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What is the difference between applications listed under utilities and apps listed under system tools? -- [[User:TheMelonFromWiiSportsResorts|TheMelonFromWiiSportsResorts]] ([[User talk:TheMelonFromWiiSportsResorts|talk]]) 19:02, 23 September 2021 (CEST)
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:Ideally, utilities should have stuff like alarm clocks that aren’t directly related to the Wii, while System tools has stuff that enhances or provides info about the Wii, like SysCheck. [[User:Hallowizer|Hallowizer]] ([[User talk:Hallowizer|talk]]) 19:43, 23 September 2021 (CEST)
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::Thank you for clarifying :) I guess then I should go remove SysCheck from the utilities section. -- [[User:TheMelonFromWiiSportsResorts|TheMelonFromWiiSportsResorts]] ([[User talk:TheMelonFromWiiSportsResorts|talk]]) 22:44, 23 September 2021 (CEST)

Latest revision as of 22:45, 23 September 2021

Changes to apps pages

Although they make the apps pages look neater, it makes it nearly impossible to monitor updated apps. Many app developers do not announce app updates on the Homebrew Updates page, and subscribing to the Special:RecentChanges RSS feed gives far too many pages. The only other way would be to subscribe to the RSS feed for every single app, and that's obviously a bit silly. Maybe the layout of that page should be discussed, or at least a version field re-added. Muzer 19:23, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

The apps pages were becoming way too unwieldly, so this was the solution that Blooper and I came up with to deal with the bloat. Versions aren't a good indicator that an app has been updated, as they don't tell you when an app was last updated, unless you're following that app closely. If anything is to be added, I would suggest a Last Updated column. --Tantric 20:06, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Why did you delete the download and source columns, it takes time to check every new app to just see if its source code is released.--Sal3000 05:55, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Other languages

Since the translations of these lists are often out of date, i suggest making this english page look as follows (or something similar), and remove the lists in other languages alltogether.

Title Article language Description Author
Homebrew Channel en | es | ja | it | nl | fi | de | fr Installs the Wii Homebrew Channel onto the System Menu Team Twiizers

It would be even cooler, if the lists in other languages could just update themselves, but i dont think thats possible...

--Mechaelvis 19:13, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Ugh. That would still leave the description untranslated. So I don't like the idea. These lists won't be that outdated anymore because they just include title, description, author - and not download, version, updated, etc. --Tantric 19:18, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Point taken, but it's more when a new application is released, sometimes it takes a long time before it's added to the other languages lists. --Mechaelvis 14:15, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
True, but it takes even longer for it to be translated, if at all. And if the app page isn't translated, and the list is half translated, is there any point at all? --Tantric 15:23, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
You are correct. If a german page links to a page that hasn't been created in german, should it link to the english article or the non-existing german article? Mechaelvis 09:12, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Demo category missing

We left out the demos tab on this page. I don't see a reason why someone looking for Wii applications would not want to see those listed on this page (WiiEarth, headtracking demo, etc).--Michael 13:26, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

They were moved. They are accessible from the main homepage, under the "Development" section. --Tantric 16:50, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
In my opinion, the demos belong here just as much as the "joke" apps do, or the "math" apps do, as examples. By placing the demos where the avergage user would not look, we're inadvertently diminishing the work of the demo writers. If the only purpose of the demo is to demo code or some technique related to coding, I 100% agree these should be in the dev section, but that's not solely the case here.--Michael 20:04, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
I have added a link to the demos to the linkbar. --Blooper (Talk) 22:10, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Question

Could you add development apps to the to linkbar; And i was wondering if you could give me a link to the template of the app table thanks? - Gamewizard71 04:27, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

No and no. Don't touch the template please and thanks. --Tantric 04:46, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

I got a question. I downloaded WINTERMAN, a game in the applications. And I don't know how to play it. As in, start it up.... is there a folder I'm suppose to put it in? 'Cause I have it in the Apps folder currently. Thanks. --Randoman 22:00, 8 June 2011 (CEST)

Difference between homebrew applications - utilities and system tools

What is the difference between applications listed under utilities and apps listed under system tools? -- TheMelonFromWiiSportsResorts (talk) 19:02, 23 September 2021 (CEST)

Ideally, utilities should have stuff like alarm clocks that aren’t directly related to the Wii, while System tools has stuff that enhances or provides info about the Wii, like SysCheck. Hallowizer (talk) 19:43, 23 September 2021 (CEST)
Thank you for clarifying :) I guess then I should go remove SysCheck from the utilities section. -- TheMelonFromWiiSportsResorts (talk) 22:44, 23 September 2021 (CEST)