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| EDIT: now upgaded to 1.0.3 and these issues still exist. | | EDIT: now upgaded to 1.0.3 and these issues still exist. |
| + | : Comments inline. -- [[User:Bushing|Bushing]] 09:42, 28 May 2009 (UTC) |
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| Ok, I see that there's a different site for reporting HBC bugs, but I really don't want to have to register for yet another forum to be able to post my bug reports, so I'm going to post this here, but if anyone wants to copy&pate this information over there, that would be good. | | Ok, I see that there's a different site for reporting HBC bugs, but I really don't want to have to register for yet another forum to be able to post my bug reports, so I'm going to post this here, but if anyone wants to copy&pate this information over there, that would be good. |
| + | : Um, no. It's not a "forum", it's a bugtracker. It's a way we can actually keep track of these things without going insane. I'm glad to have detailed bug reports like this, but expecting someone random to just start cutting and pasting stuff for you is inappropriate. |
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| I'm using a wii with system menu 3.3u and a 2 gig SD card to load homebrew (which I ran through scandisk before installing HBC 1.0.2). | | I'm using a wii with system menu 3.3u and a 2 gig SD card to load homebrew (which I ran through scandisk before installing HBC 1.0.2). |
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| And that's my hardware setup.... | | And that's my hardware setup.... |
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| I had been using HBC 8 beta (installed via Twilight hack), and since it was working fine I never updated to HBC beta 9 (I saw that I'd have to convert some of the invalid elf file, so I just didn't mess with it, since things were working). | | I had been using HBC 8 beta (installed via Twilight hack), and since it was working fine I never updated to HBC beta 9 (I saw that I'd have to convert some of the invalid elf file, so I just didn't mess with it, since things were working). |
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| But I am noticing problems with some games not wanting to run now, and some other bugs popping up (I had none of these issues when using beta 8). | | But I am noticing problems with some games not wanting to run now, and some other bugs popping up (I had none of these issues when using beta 8). |
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| First, I noticed the exact same issue reported above: "4.4 HBC Doesn't Power Off Completely (when Standby Connect Enabled)" There's nothing really I can add to that; it's exactly as the other person describes. | | First, I noticed the exact same issue reported above: "4.4 HBC Doesn't Power Off Completely (when Standby Connect Enabled)" There's nothing really I can add to that; it's exactly as the other person describes. |
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| I don't know if any either of those glitches could have to do with the wii not being able to access the internet, even though wiiconnect24 is enabled.... | | I don't know if any either of those glitches could have to do with the wii not being able to access the internet, even though wiiconnect24 is enabled.... |
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| Finally... I seem to have some major issues with incompatibilities with some games. Again, these all ran fine with HBC beta 8, and now they will not run with HBC 1.0.2. | | Finally... I seem to have some major issues with incompatibilities with some games. Again, these all ran fine with HBC beta 8, and now they will not run with HBC 1.0.2. |
| It would be great if someone else could verify any of these games are not working for them. I have tried completely deleting them from the SD card and re-installing them from scratch, but still no joy. And just to be completely thorough, I installed these games from scratch onto a separate, new SD card, and I get the same results. | | It would be great if someone else could verify any of these games are not working for them. I have tried completely deleting them from the SD card and re-installing them from scratch, but still no joy. And just to be completely thorough, I installed these games from scratch onto a separate, new SD card, and I get the same results. |
| + | : I believe you that you're seeing this problem -- but I can't think of a technical explanation for it. I went and downloaded a few of these to try them. -- [[User:Bushing|Bushing]] 09:42, 28 May 2009 (UTC) |
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| I've noticed almost all of these games have something in common, probably having to do with the tools used to create them: they have a "data" folder.... | | I've noticed almost all of these games have something in common, probably having to do with the tools used to create them: they have a "data" folder.... |
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| [[Aspirin]] = Black screen of no return. Must hold down power button on wii (this one has no "data" folder though, unlike almost all the rest). | | [[Aspirin]] = Black screen of no return. Must hold down power button on wii (this one has no "data" folder though, unlike almost all the rest). |
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| [[Defendguin]] = Loading screen shows progress bar, then it just exits to HBC. I think I saw a "read error" or "cannot find error" once" looking for "child.mod" but that files does exist in the data\music\ folder. | | [[Defendguin]] = Loading screen shows progress bar, then it just exits to HBC. I think I saw a "read error" or "cannot find error" once" looking for "child.mod" but that files does exist in the data\music\ folder. |
− | | + | : works for me -- [[User:Bushing|Bushing]] 09:42, 28 May 2009 (UTC) |
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| [[Helium boy]] = code dump | | [[Helium boy]] = code dump |
− | | + | : Works for me. Next time, please at least take a photograph of your screen. Saying "code dump" with no futher details is unhelpful; those numbers are displayed for a reason. -- [[User:Bushing|Bushing]] 09:42, 28 May 2009 (UTC) |
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| [[Hexxagon]] = This one is probably an issue with DosBox and HBC 1.0.2 ; I have the exact same issue reported here: http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Talk:Hexxagon about "Hexxagon not loading." This worked fine with HBC beta 8. I do see a bunch of text on the screen before it drops me into DosBox at the Z: prompt, but it flashes up too fast to read. | | [[Hexxagon]] = This one is probably an issue with DosBox and HBC 1.0.2 ; I have the exact same issue reported here: http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Talk:Hexxagon about "Hexxagon not loading." This worked fine with HBC beta 8. I do see a bunch of text on the screen before it drops me into DosBox at the Z: prompt, but it flashes up too fast to read. |
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| [[Mad Bomber]] = Loading screen shows progress meter, then it gives a "can't read" error, I think it said, "bizjung.it" but again that file does exist in data\music\ | | [[Mad Bomber]] = Loading screen shows progress meter, then it gives a "can't read" error, I think it said, "bizjung.it" but again that file does exist in data\music\ |
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| [[Missile Command]] = Black screen, then exit to HBC. I actually updated the ELF file I had been using with the ELF to DOL converter before I saw there had been an updated version of this released for HBC 9. I downloaded that, but I get the same result either way trying to run this game on HBC 1.0.2 | | [[Missile Command]] = Black screen, then exit to HBC. I actually updated the ELF file I had been using with the ELF to DOL converter before I saw there had been an updated version of this released for HBC 9. I downloaded that, but I get the same result either way trying to run this game on HBC 1.0.2 |
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| [[Paradroid]] = Black screen, the lights on the wiimote show it to be connected, then after a little while it just exits to the HBC. This one leaves some info in sd:\SDL_error.txt that says (the same errors every time I check): | | [[Paradroid]] = Black screen, the lights on the wiimote show it to be connected, then after a little while it just exits to the HBC. This one leaves some info in sd:\SDL_error.txt that says (the same errors every time I check): |
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| Of course, those files do exist.... | | Of course, those files do exist.... |
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| [[Teeter Torture]] = Black screen, then exits to HBC. | | [[Teeter Torture]] = Black screen, then exits to HBC. |
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| [[Vectoroids]] = I saw a read error, looking for "decision.s3m" which does exist in data\music | | [[Vectoroids]] = I saw a read error, looking for "decision.s3m" which does exist in data\music |
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| [[Wiiero]] = left a note in sd:\SDL_error.txt (same error every time): | | [[Wiiero]] = left a note in sd:\SDL_error.txt (same error every time): |
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| The file does exist in that location, as "littlefont.bmp" | | The file does exist in that location, as "littlefont.bmp" |
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| If some more people could verify that these games are not working on HBC 1.0.2 (or test them on HBC beta 9 as well) it might be helpful. | | If some more people could verify that these games are not working on HBC 1.0.2 (or test them on HBC beta 9 as well) it might be helpful. |
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| Or if someone wants to bring these to the attention of whomever needs to be informed, that would be nice (I really hate having to register for forums all over the internet...). | | Or if someone wants to bring these to the attention of whomever needs to be informed, that would be nice (I really hate having to register for forums all over the internet...). |
| + | : I really hate having to scour the internet for bug reports -- [[User:Bushing|Bushing]] 09:42, 28 May 2009 (UTC) |
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| --[[User:Mr. Reaper|Mr. Reaper]] 02:46, 26 May 2009 (UTC) | | --[[User:Mr. Reaper|Mr. Reaper]] 02:46, 26 May 2009 (UTC) |
| :It seems that hbc1.0.2 broke the ability of homebrew apps to access the sd card. This is most probably already fixed with 1.0.3 which is not out yet in keeping with the time honored tradition of TT to drag their feet on releases (HBC 1.0.1 being the exception). The apps you mention all try to read from the card and fail if not able to. [[iiii]] otoh, tries to read from the card but when it fails it just loads the game anyway. [[User:Yossi|Yossi]] 03:19, 26 May 2009 (UTC) | | :It seems that hbc1.0.2 broke the ability of homebrew apps to access the sd card. This is most probably already fixed with 1.0.3 which is not out yet in keeping with the time honored tradition of TT to drag their feet on releases (HBC 1.0.1 being the exception). The apps you mention all try to read from the card and fail if not able to. [[iiii]] otoh, tries to read from the card but when it fails it just loads the game anyway. [[User:Yossi|Yossi]] 03:19, 26 May 2009 (UTC) |
| ::Ah, thank you for that info. Let's hope they get it fixed up and that they release HBC 1.0.3 quickly, as this is a fairly critical bug.... --[[User:Mr. Reaper|Mr. Reaper]] 04:10, 26 May 2009 (UTC) | | ::Ah, thank you for that info. Let's hope they get it fixed up and that they release HBC 1.0.3 quickly, as this is a fairly critical bug.... --[[User:Mr. Reaper|Mr. Reaper]] 04:10, 26 May 2009 (UTC) |
| + | :::Yossi's comment is incorrect. HBC does not stay in memory once another program runs; it can't break other apps (and we have not seen it do so). If we can reproduce this, we'll fix it, but until then, we'd just be working blindly. -- [[User:Bushing|Bushing]] 09:42, 28 May 2009 (UTC) |
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| :: Well, rats. I was happy to see they'd released 1.0.3 so quickly, hoping it would fix these problems. I downloaded it, installed it, and tested all this stuff to find that nothing had changed. All the issues with the games I reported above still exist in 1.0.3 along with the black screen output on powerdown from within HBC. I won't know if the random (too frequent) "loading, then black screen lockup" bug is still in there until I've used it some more though. They do know about these game issues, right? --[[User:Mr. Reaper|Mr. Reaper]] 04:42, 28 May 2009 (UTC) | | :: Well, rats. I was happy to see they'd released 1.0.3 so quickly, hoping it would fix these problems. I downloaded it, installed it, and tested all this stuff to find that nothing had changed. All the issues with the games I reported above still exist in 1.0.3 along with the black screen output on powerdown from within HBC. I won't know if the random (too frequent) "loading, then black screen lockup" bug is still in there until I've used it some more though. They do know about these game issues, right? --[[User:Mr. Reaper|Mr. Reaper]] 04:42, 28 May 2009 (UTC) |