Talk:CleanRip

Is this legit? Graingert

If you mean "is it OK by WiiBrew's rules?", I'd say yes. It doesn't enable piracy in any way, and there are a number of reasons one may want to rip a disc e.g. extracting files to modify for use with Riivolution, extract DOL to reverse engineer for exploits... --SifJar 19:43, 13 September 2010 (CEST)

I dont see why not either. Its better than being forced to use other illegitimate methods to get the files. Kind of like the wiibrew version of DopMii.--ChuckBartowski 02:20, 14 September 2010 (CEST)

Also, I thought of something else: If you're ripping a game, that means you probably own it, i.e. its not piracy. While backups in general aren't supported, that's mainly because usually its a euphemism for pirated copies. Thus info on backup playing is not permitted as it would aid pirates. This will not aid a pirate. Of course, there is the exception of ripping a rented or borrowed game, but I doubt many people would bother with that, considering it'd be easier to just download the game --SifJar 21:03, 14 September 2010 (CEST)

Fail! Preaching that "Wiibrew isn't about piracy" clear out all the brews that use "cIOScrap" because of piracy, and then allow a program to flourish that by and far is FOR piracy. Hypocritical to say the least. The program is useful, don't get me wrong but it not only flies in the face of Twiizers anti-piracy policy, it mauls it afterward just for sherry and giggles. You copy/manipulate 1 BIT of any game you have broken the copyright law as written. So, I re-iterate... FAIL! Blahvarious 01:41, 16 September 2010 (CEST)

I got a set of knives in my kitchen. Criminals stab people with knives. Does owning and using knives makes me a criminal? --Spec 17:26, 16 September 2010 (CEST)

Do not assume everyone lives in the US. They do not. There's a big world out there. Even if it is technically illegal in the US, it is certainly not in all countries. Anyway, your argument is paper-thin at best. Hypocritical to get rid of all cIOS using/installing programs, and then allowing an app that doesn't use or install them? I think you need to learn what hypocrisy is. This app does not allow piracy. It does not even aid piracy in anyway, as if you are ripping a disc, there is a fairly good chance you OWN it, so its not piracy. --SifJar 19:38, 16 September 2010 (CEST)

Apparently you don't follow copy-rite law. It states in the EULA that you agree to when you install a program that you DO NOT own the software, you're only allowed to use it under their conditions and that your rights to use said copy of the software can be revoked at any time, for any reason. Am I saying that they will come to your house and seize your software? probably not, but can they? Yes and the news is all over the internet. Sure games are a very minor part of it but it can still happen. The hypocritical part i'm talking about is the "anti-piracy" stance that Twiizers has taken even though they had to USE and continue technically to use in order to promote/use/code their software, along with all the authors of any brew that is written. I can't believe you sat there in your chair and typed all that with a straight face. BTW before you try and slap me with the "Wii games don't contain an EULA... It's implied when you insert the disc. so it doesn't matter if you own the game legit or not.Blahvarious 00:44, 19 September 2010 (CEST)

Modifying games for purposes not involving prohibited sharing has been legal since Lewis Galoob Toys, Inc. v. Nintendo of America, Inc. Additionally, EULAs are very shaky legal ground outside of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. Despite what Nintendo and every other copyright-supporting capitalist institution wants you to think, copyright does not let you write your own laws. Kmeisthax 05:36, 23 September 2010 (CEST)

"The hypocritical part i'm talking about is the "anti-piracy" stance that Twiizers has taken even though they had to USE and continue technically to use in order to promote/use/code their software, along with all the authors of any brew that is written."

I don't understand what you're trying to say here. They had to use what? What do all authors of homebrew use? Anyway, EULA =/= law. AFAIK, there has NEVER been a successful court case over a EULA. The two are completely different things. --SifJar 18:48, 23 September 2010 (CEST)

Kmeisthax, as much as I'd like to agree with your post, it's apples and oranges. Why else would Ninty be after Twiizers for cracking their system? After the game genie was created the clause of "unauthorized use" of anything Ninty, sony, or M$ doesn't like voids warranties. That was the loophole there, If they can't win over Galoob's GG then they will screw over the customer. Copy-rite law, is up holdable in court. If it wasn't then those "capitalist institutions" would find some other tree to bark up. SifJar, [[1]] There you go, the uphold ability of an EULA [[2]]a case example, [[3]] and proof that you don't own the software.

What's the big picture? Being able to rip games to a USB HD is fine, but what can one do with the image? Vladhed 19:01, 13 September 2010 (CEST)

You could extract files and modify them for use with Riivolution or you could extract the DOL to reverse engineer and look for exploits. --SifJar 19:43, 13 September 2010 (CEST)

Wait wait wait wait wait - am I understanding this correctly? This program lets you view and copy individual files from the disc? --SandMan 03:48, 14 September 2010 (CEST)

Nope. It rips the entire disc to an ISO I think. What I mean is you can then use another program e.g. WiiScrubber to extract files from the ripped ISO, showing just one of this tools perfectly legit purposes. For what you describe, WiiXplorer is more suited. --SifJar 21:03, 14 September 2010 (CEST)

In Features it says "File Splitting (1,2,3GB or Maximum file size - use only on NTFS)"; why should I use file splitting on NTFS? Should that be FAT instead? Lukas227 10:15, 14 September 2010 (CEST)

You fail at reading. --Steffen 14:28, 14 September 2010 (CEST)

No, he's right. It's ambiguous. I'll change it now.  — SheeEttin 20:41, 14 September 2010 (CEST)

Hey, I'm getting a "AHBPROT check failed" error when I try to start it. I've got the latest HBC (with the dark screen and bubbles!), I'm on 4.1E, and I upgraded to IOS 58 using an offline install by downloading IOS 58 using NUS Downloader, saving it as a WAD, and installing it with a WAD installer. I can't find this error online anywhere. Thanks in advance. ~ Zvelda 11:52, 29 September 2010 (CEST)

Grammatical nitpick on ripping screen: "40% percent complete"

"40% percent" is redundant, and means "40 percent percent". Obviously, this does not impact the app's functionality in any way, but you may or may not wish to change it for future releases. - Vague Rant 11:53, 18 November 2010 (CET)