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Offers of Help/Services

Screen Recording

Someone pointed out the other day that a few people wanted videos recording of their apps. I've got my wii set up now through on my PC, so contact me and I might be able to get one done for you? I can email, ftp or whatever the xvid files. JD 17:56, 14 June 2008 (CEST)

Translation

Japanese

HisshouBuraiKen

Beta Testing

I am a good beta tester, see My User Page for testing history. Muzer 10:12, 28 June 2008 (CEST)

Developer Requests

Could possibly do with being moved to another page? but here it is...

Application developers: pop down any requests or cries for help you have for your own projects, make sure you include: notes and contact information:

Audio

Project	Requirement	Notes/Description	Priority	Deadline	Contact
Jewel Thiif	Theme Music	Open to ideas, but would kinda like some cheesy 80's stadium rock (think transformers the movie or journey) preferably not in english	Medium	not set	JD
Jewel Thiif	All sound Effects (see list)	random noises for voices, some ambient recordings, explosions, gun fire, scream, evil laugh, footsteps, jewel sound, clicking noises and probably a lot more!	Medium	not set	JD

Coders

Project	Requirement	Notes/Description	Priority	Deadline	Contact
Akiretris	Game Port	Akiretris is currently a Tetris game with both a Genesis and PSX version in development and an older Windows version is available. Contact me and I can start by giving you source code from any of the versions and we can talk on my IRC channel. I would also like MOD based music playback as that is what the PSX version uses along with the Windows version. My friend Tails92 is the coder for current versions while another friend DarkWarrior and I make graphics for the game.	Medium	not set	Akirahedgehog

Graphics

Project	Requirement	Notes/Description	Priority	Deadline	Contact

Ideas for Homebrew-Apps

Looking for a project??? heres a list of what other users would like to see:

Examples/Snippets

A DVD Program

A program that uses the Wii's DVD drive to play DVDs, controls appear at bottom like Opera ones? Codec could be one of the restricted linux ones.

Flash Drive Support

Booting to a USB flash drive in the home brew channel.

USB Hard Drive Support

The ability to boot to a hard drive via the HBC and run it that way. SD cards have MANY issues with file corruption, and very limited read/write cycles. HDs don't. Perhaps a hack for the Wii itself making it use USB HDs instead of the crappy NAND flash memory.

USB DVD/CD Rom Drive Support

The ability to access an external DVD/CD Rom drive connected threw the USB ports in the back. This could be a very quick, and easy work around the Wii's DVD encryption system.

NFS File system support

The ability to allow a home brew application to mount a networked file system from a local source. This could be a little more possible then trying to hack the USB connection for external Hard Drives/DVD Drives. Considering we already have access to the Wii's network connection. It may be slow for application that wish to access the NFS a lot, and often, but for other application that only load a file once it would be a perfect solution to small SD cards.

DS as a Controller

Using something like the DS download application which allows the DS to act as a HID for mac and PC

DS in game Screen output

The ability to extend the screen to a Ds, like in FFCC, Wind Waker etc on the GBA...

File Downloader

Just a simple file downloader!

Mii Renderer

A program (with source) that allows you to view the Miis on your Wii (very useful for homebrew that wish to use the Mii API)

Interesting idea... check out the Homebrew apps/Mii Extractor, there should be a start there to at least get the information :)

the developer (Waninkoko) is banned from these parts tho, but he does release some source code for a few apps on his webpage, so even if this isn't one he might help? JD 10:31, 16 June 2008 (CEST)

WiiConnect24

Basically any app that does something while the Wii is on Standby. It would probably be hard and dangerous, as it would require modifying the Wii filesystem, but if it became more easy (using libraries) people would start developing things for it.

Having read WiiConnect24 I'm not sure It could do anything useful besides downloading files or recieving email, but It's worth a try. --XaPi 21:25, 27 June 2008 (CEST)

Virtual Machine Ports

Bochs

http://bochs.sourceforge.net

My suggestion is to allow for front SD, or even better External USB hard drive support to load the disk image, config file, etc. and to have USB keyboard and Wimote support. It would also be great to be able to use the USB ports, Front SD, Bluetooth, DVD Drive, and integrated wifi from within the emulated machine. I believe that the Wii should be capable of running Windows 98 fairly well, since the PSP can run Windows 95 with Bochs. --Westy92 03:26, 10 June 2008 (CEST) The GP2X can run Win95 with a 6:38 minute start-up, at around 1/3 the power on processor so we could get something decent. Pinball wizard 05:01, 16 June 2008 (CEST)

    What about XP? Here's the minimum specs[1]

--Matando 01:57, 29 June 2008 (CEST) XP should run under Bochs. We just need to be careful with the small amount of RAM Wii has(88MB). It also requires at least 1.5GB of hard disk space, excluding documents, so we have to load disk images off usb devices. We should include support for Front SD too, maybe for extra hard drive space or possibly even some virtual ram.

Tools

Google Earth Clone - Nasa World Wind Port

I think it would be nice to browse through Google Earth on my TV using the Wiimote... It would also be nice for people that don´t like computers, but like Google Earth (you know, your father would love it!)

I want to work on this project, but I would like some help, even from no-experienced coders.

What I have so far: I know where I can get the sattelite imagery... I plan to use the NASA databases, the same used by World Wind. Soon I will code a simple demo to get some imagery from the web and show it on the Wii.

Where do I need some help: I don't know how to use the Wii GX. I have some experience on OpenGL on Windows, but I can´t find a documentation on the Wii GX, and I need to know how to render the textures on a globe, and how to rotate/pan/zoom. I will also need some help on memory management.

If you want to help me, leave a comment with your contact info on my talk page. Shdwcoder

My father gets confused by the toaster, I don't think he'd love it! ;) Seriously though with the number and size of images your talking about you are going to need to figure out an image/texture caching solution before you even start looking at the API. Caching to a USB storage device may work but at a maximum burst speed of 12Mbps I wouldn't hold my breath. --nliwilson 12:32, 10 June 2008 (CEST)

Textviewer

Description: A text viewing app, plain and simple.

Motivation: If I work at my PC and can't use it at that moment to view a documentation, i could watch it instead on my Wii.

Controlled by: Wiimote

Select file to view
- A: choose file or directory
- B: go back up a directory level
- HOME: back to HBC
- D-Pad: use up/down to scroll up/down line by line, use left/right to scroll up/down page by page
Viewmode of a selected file
- A: scroll down one page
- B: scroll up one page
- +: upscale font size
- -: downscale font size
- 1: cycle through encodings (e.g. UTF-8, ANSI, ASCII)
- 2: cycle through line break methods (CR, CR/LF, LF)
- HOME: menu: back to file, choose another file, back to HBC
- D-Pad: use up/down to scroll up/down line by line, use left/right to scroll up/down page by page

Is this the correct page to request such an application? If I'm wrong, please correct me. More ideas to control this app can be delivered (things like switching line breaks on/off, in off-mode use d-pad to scroll also left/right).

It sounds like your asking for a Wii port of Vim. --nliwilson 16:43, 9 June 2008 (CEST)

I'm not sure under what situation you'd actually want to do this? If your wanting to view a text file on the wii it means:

a) You don't have your computer to hand

b) You've already got your text file on your SD Card

c) Getting to your computer/turning the PC on, will be slower than turning the wii on

Have you considered having a small web server on your network and accessing files through the internet channel instead? - JD 17:01, 9 June 2008 (CEST)

Seems like this would be nice for READMEs, etc. User:aksommerville

VNC Client

I would love to see some form of VNC client for the wii. I think it would be great to be able to control my main computer from the living room without the aid of my bashed up old laptop.

I know this is already possible, by using LogMeIn. I have tried this and I verify that this works, but is a little slow. I think it should have USB keyboard support, yet I have no way to test that. Intructions can be found Here. --Westy92 00:47, 17 June 2008 (CEST)

This could just be another application to be used via wii linux, so push for that instead JD 01:06, 17 June 2008 (CEST)

This wouldn't work. PCs use SVGA, with a MINIMUM resolution of 800x600. The Wii has no HD support, meaning it has only one resolution, standard def, 640x480. See the problem now? Wrong resolutions. (360 and PS3 have adequate resolutions)

The NDS has a VNC client (never tried it), so I think it would be possible...--XaPi 21:55, 25 June 2008 (CEST)

tell that to my ubuntu laptop with the res option of 640x480 and 400x300 also scrollbars? --Warpedflash

Actually it is entirely possible. Just look at LogMeIn on the PC for a perfect example of how it can be done. If the resolutions of the two screens are different, it allows you to either have it "Fit To Page" or allow it to scroll. PCs can use QVGA (320x240, almost never used by users nowadays), VGA (640x480), SVGA (800x600), XGA (1024x768), just to name a few. Also, a "Standard Definition" television does not use 640x480 (a common mistake). NTSC televisions use a resolution of 720x480, while PAL televisions use 768x576. This is the sole reason why you can't mix and match PAL and NTSC devices. --Kabili 09:13, 26 June 2008 (CEST)

Web browser

We know the DS has a few third party browsers now, but it would be nice to see a Wii one! (Could we port over Firefox or some other open source browser?)

Is Opera open source? A port of the PC one would be far superior than the Opera Channel, and Firefox, as without all its extensions firefox is nothing, whereas Opera is basically FF + All the good extensions. (sorry if I start a browser war :s). Muzer 10:17, 25 April 2008 (PDT)

No, it's not, and this would be a lot of work for little benefit.Bushing 14:26, 25 April 2008 (PDT)

Opera isn't open source; I disagree that this would be a lot of work for little benefit. Java support, downloading files, add in plugins and other things you can't do on the Internet Channel which would be definately worth it.

I think it depends on if you would really use it -- I agree it'd be cool to use Firefox on my Wii, but if I actually want to browse I get my laptop. And if you don't have access to a computer with the internet, you're not going to be able to get any Wii homebrew anyway! I do think it'd be cool, and I'd definitely download it if someone put it up, but I agree with Bushing -- not worth it. -- karaken12 11:45, 13 May 2008 (PDT) (P.S. Sign your posts! Use ~~~~)

Opera is not free, I mean it's not a free software and it costs 500 wiipoints, port Firefox or a webkit based browser should be a lot of work but it also would be a great alternative to the bad Wii's Opera. Terloup2 10:32, 27 May 2008 (PDT)

The internet channel is very limited in terms of content (lack of video plugins, latest flash versions etc etc) and probably won't get updated all that often, so I'd support the idea of a homebrew browser. Especially if it could support local file browsing to allow viewing of files stored on the SD card (good for flash based games). And if it loaded faster, that would be a BIG plus. JD 22:02, 10 June 2008 (CEST)

I haven't tried GC-linux, but the framebuffer works, no? Then surely DirectFB works on Wii, and Mozilla works on DirectFB, so a port would not be hard at all. Of course that would require a Wii network driver for GC-linux.--comex

I've not got GC-Linux working (don't have a USB keyboard anyway) so unfortunately can't try this at the moment, but this sort of thing would be suitable if the boot times were low enough... But I kinda doubt they would be. JD 15:09, 12 June 2008 (CEST)

E-mail Client

Wouldn't it be cool if we had a little POP3(or IMAP) e-mail client to check our e-mail on the wii. Maby a stripped down port of Outlook Express. No Tasks, To-do, or any of that crap. But a calendar would be nice!

I think this is yet another one of those apps that could just be used via wii linux. another possibility is web mail JD 11:39, 23 June 2008 (CEST)

I'd say go with an already open source ThunderBird, Evolution, or possibly the awesome Zimbra! (Possibly make as a channel) NINTENDO: IF YOU'RE READING THIS, GIVE THE WII POP3 SUPPORT FOR THE MESSAGE BOARD!!!

Media Share over Network

I know there are some media players that play files from the SD card, but would it be possible to play them over the network?

wiimiidia was announced with support for network shares, think it worked via samba? anyway, you'll probably have to wait for that since no one else is really making anything media wise that I can think of because of it. JD 11:40, 23 June 2008 (CEST)

SQLite

Would be very handy for media player apps. I've tried to port the amalgamated version (one huge .c file) but my programming skills are laughable and I've gotten nowhere.

Games

Punch-Out!! with Wiimote & Nunchuck Motion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Tyson's_Punch-Out!!

Proposed version based on FCE Sources for Wii & Punch Out Rom

Proposed Controls

Wiimote & Nunchuck Move Left => Left

Wiimote & Nunchuck Move Right => Right

Wiimote & Nunchuck Move Back => Down

Wiimote Punch => A

Nunchuck Punch => B

Wiimote Punch & Wiimote B => A & Up

Nunchuck Punch & Nunchuck Z => B & Up

    Deleopers please contact Marcelo7110@hotmail.com

Doom/Doom 2, Heretic, & Hexen

FreeDoom already mentioned.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heretic_%28computer_game%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexen

These shouldn't be too hard to develop. The Quake port is perfect.

DX-Ball Clone

I love the game Dx-ball and would like to see one on the wii. But I will be happier to see Online Highscores.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DX-Ball

Real Guitar Hero

Guitar Realo? An application that plays real music notes based on input from the Wii 'Guitar Hero' guitar controller. Check out this video to see how it would look.

If anyone is interested in this project, check out The Guitar Zeroes. They have a program that works with Max/MSP to convert Guitar Hero Controller notes into real music notes. It's for any system that Max/MSP is for, but the likelihood of them giving you the source is pretty much nil. --SquidMan 02:29, 28 June 2008 (CEST)

Just of note, if I counted correctly, there are 27 different possible combinations of fret presses on a 5-button guitar. That might help someone. Psychade 15:46, 28 June 2008 (CEST)

Open Source Ports

More available here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open_source_games

Flight Gear

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FlightGear

A flight simulator for the Wii, initially mention by Pinball wizard and reffered to as WiiFlight

My suggestion is take Flight Gear, kill LOADS and LOADS of graphics processing to where it is polygon and not much detail, and less control options in the cockpit, unless you do a point and click type of thing. Pinball wizard 23:35, 9 June 2008 (CEST)

FreeDoom

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeDoom

FreeDoom is just a Doom wad. We need a doom engine like this - http://prboom.sourceforge.net/ Danny37415

Frets on fire

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frets_on_Fire

I believe that the Guitar Hero 3 extension controller is a must.--Westy92 03:28, 10 June 2008 (CEST)

I'd imagine that the GH3 extension controller would be easier than the keyboard to implement!! JD 14:53, 12 June 2008 (CEST)

I believe Frets on fire is written in python.. Maybe another similar application would be a more suiting choice, freetar hero? Guitar zero? I don't know what language they're written in though..

According to this page -> http://forums.xbox-scene.com/lofiversion/index.php/t553218.html -> Freetar Hero is in Java, and Guitar Zero in c/c++. Couldn't find any verification, there's barely any information on them anywhere. FoF seems to be the most popular and best documented. Is it even possible to port a game written in Python onto the Wii? I just really think there's some potential with this, it'd be so awesome. Psychade 15:52, 28 June 2008 (CEST)

Neverball

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neverball

oh and not just with wiimote support but with balance board support too JD 14:52, 12 June 2008 (CEST)

Scarlet Weather Rhapsody

I got the idea of a Scarlet Weather Rhapsody port. Multiplayer, everything, and even utilizing wifi for online capabilities would be nice.

SWR isnt open source... sorry--SquidMan 10:34, 25 June 2008 (CEST)

Stepmania

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepmania

Their community aren't that receptive of the idea at the moment http://www.stepmania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13186 JD 00:08, 10 June 2008 (CEST)

Because they think it would be illegal or automatically become Nintendo's property. Unfortunately they don't understand the meaning of "derivative works" or the legal purpose of a terms of service agreement. ProdigySim 08:29, 12 June 2008 (CEST)

Whats the deal with that?? how can they think that anything that runs on a wii automatically becomes the property of nintendo?? I don't suppose this works for web pages or images viewed through the opera browser and its probably going to mean bad news for linux! JD 15:07, 12 June 2008 (CEST)

They all keep going on about a condition in the ToS for the Wii which says any software running on it will automatically become property of Nintendo? That condition sounds like it must be on the edges of the law anyway also if someone is to make an unofficial version, its got nothing to do with them and therefore Nintendo couldn't claim there whole project anyway?? Tommy 09:46, 24 June 2008 (BST)

Also, I support the idea of making a version of this, looks like FUN :D Tommy 09:49, 24 June 2008 (BST)

Emulators

Sega Saturn

I myself would like to see a Sega Saturn emu, and I know somebody wanted a dos emu? --GodCube teh Philosopher, Jack of all Trades 21:29, 16 June 2008 (CEST)

This page is a build and wish list of libraries that can be built for Wii without porting. It is preferred to have a gc build along with a Wii build.

Libraries

High Priority

Title	Version	Description	Creator	DL	Source	Origin site, release, source control page
FreeImage	3.10.0	Load popular image formats from a file or in memory		None	None	http://freeimage.sourceforge.net/ http://freeimage.sourceforge.net/download.html http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=11504
FreeType	2.3.6	Load many font formats from a file or in memory		None	None	http://www.freetype.org/ http://freetype.sourceforge.net/download.html#stable http://savannah.nongnu.org/cvs/?group=freetype

Medium Priority

Title	Version	Description	Creator	DL	Source	Origin site, release, source control page
FFMPEG		Decodes many known non propriety video formats		None	None	http://ffmpeg.mplayerhq.hu/ http://ffmpeg.mplayerhq.hu/download.html http://ffmpeg.mplayerhq.hu/download.html

Would be nice

Title	Version	Description	Creator	DL	Source	Origin site, release, source control page
ICU		Unicode string handling		None	None	http://www.icu-project.org/ http://www.icu-project.org/download/ http://www.icu-project.org/repository/
enet		Thin socket layer		None	None	http://enet.bespin.org/index.html http://enet.bespin.org/SourceDistro.html http://enet.bespin.org/SourceDistro.html

Collaboration

Thanks for moving this discussion to here JD, this is much more sensible. That reminds me, personally I'd like to see the Sensible engine ported to Wii, or a clone there of, imagine Cannon Fodder with Wiimote support...

Anyway, it would be a good idea not only to encourage development through this page but to encourage something home-brew scenes tend to lack, collaboration. I know people do collaborate on projects but it tends to be erratic and close-circled, showing off personal coding skills is all good and well but think what could be achieved if more of the multi-skilled talent on this site where working together?

--nliwilson 14:47, 9 June 2008 (CEST)

No probs... it makes sense that an area for this sort of thing, it just wasn't in the right place before! I know somepeople would suggest the forum being a better place, but I don't like how things get separated like that... JD 15:18, 9 June 2008 (CEST)

A folding@home client!

The PS3 has one,why not the wii? It'd need to be able to use more than the SD card. NAND or USB drive/usb hd?

The PS3 has one since the developers at Stanford wrote it. The Wii cannot have one until they write it for it. That would be a cool channel. "Wii Like To Fold". THey would have to talk to the big N first for the SDK and develop it as WiiWare. Pinball wizard 03:54, 24 June 2008 (CEST)

Also the PS3 has a cell processor which costs more than half a Wii. That basically means that a Wii basically sucks for these tasks, while PS3 kicks your computer's ass. (Remember:we are talking about calculation, not games ;-) ) --XaPi 22:10, 25 June 2008 (CEST)

True, but the wii still has power, and it COULD be possible to code it for the Wii

We still don't have the source code. Pinball wizard 00:42, 28 June 2008 (CEST)

Because the Wii is not a powerful machine? Felix 06:56, 28 June 2008 (CEST)

SEGA Dreamcast Emulator

A DC emu would be nice for the Wii, especially a port of nulldc or Chankast so I can enjoy reliving playin' good ol' Sonic Adventure 2. SF49 04:07, 29 June 2008 (CEST)

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 I know there are some media players that play files from the SD card, but would it be possible to play them over the network?
 :wiimiidia was announced with support for network shares, think it worked via samba? anyway, you'll probably have to wait for that since no one else is really making anything media wise that I can think of because of it. [[User:Jamesdodd|JD]] 11:40, 23 June 2008 (CEST)
+====SQLite====
+Would be very handy for media player apps.  I've tried to port the amalgamated version (one huge .c file) but my programming skills are laughable and I've gotten nowhere.
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