Talk:IOS37

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Update risk?

What would be the best thing to do? Should I update because it has no immediate affect? Or should I put it off until it is required? 79.72.75.175 02:54, 23 March 2008 (PDT) (User:Muzer not logged in (User talk:Muzer))

I can see why homebrew channels would be affected, but surely a "Trucha-Signed" disc could request an older version of IOS in it's TMD? Or does the Wii system menu (which will be updated eventually) check the disc's signing? Or am I on the wrong track completely? RabidZombie 09:45, 23 March 2008 (PDT)

The disc is verified by the system menu, not by the disc software. I wonder in case Nintendo puts out a system menu update to block trucha signed discs, if it would be possible to use the Twilight Hack to initiate a downgrade of the system menu software. 83.252.139.72 13:52, 23 March 2008 (PDT)
I guessed as much. :'( Thanks for verifying. (RabidZombie) 86.136.14.222 14:53, 23 March 2008 (PDT)

Hoax?

I finally got access to my Wii, and there seems to be no update. Is this a hoax? --Muzer 13:55, 23 March 2008 (PDT)

No
So why can't my Wii pick it up then? And sign your comments! --Muzer 01:53, 24 March 2008 (PDT)
Well Bushing did sign his comment; check the signature after the tmd dump below. You just decided to post your comment in the middle of his (as did I now). Oofrab 02:28, 24 March 2008 (PDT)
Yeah, that. I don't know why your Wii didn't pick it up, I just work here. You can download the TMD yourself: http://nus.cdn.shop.wii.com/ccs/download/0000000100000025/tmd
The whole point of this wasn't to freak people out, it was simply to say "here's something that is happening behind the scenes which may affect you later". Geez. Bushing 04:50, 24 March 2008 (PDT)
Title ID: 00000001-00000025 (IOS37)
 Title Type: 1
 Group ID: '\x00\x01'
 Access Rights: 0x00000000
 Title Version: 0x816
 Boot Index: 14
 Contents:
  ID       Index Type    Size         Hash
  00000000 0     0x1     0x40         0d cb 5c 2a 60 70 69 8f 79 f9 77 fb c8 25 a8 87 89 eb 1b 42
  00000001 1     0x8001  0x8348       26 0b e9 47 a0 8f 57 f6 ef 51 08 64 27 fe 22 2f d4 04 03 99
  00000002 2     0x8001  0x6628       e7 8c 7a 45 bd e2 b4 5b 1b a4 95 18 83 f6 9f 84 f6 bb 14 69
  00000003 3     0x8001  0x3bf8       ad 64 23 8e d0 18 59 73 8e fb 2c f0 ba b2 38 ed 55 a6 d7 0b
  00000004 4     0x8001  0x2a30       8a 92 4f 23 83 cb b8 a6 99 9d b5 58 7b 89 2c 28 62 33 7d 80
  00000005 5     0x8001  0x29f7c      61 41 c3 6f 82 5a 62 09 3b 4b a2 8b 07 05 46 80 ec d4 69 a7
  00000006 6     0x8001  0x5800c      80 d7 04 96 e2 83 4e 11 6c 15 44 9e f1 be 16 da a7 ce 62 67
  00000007 7     0x8001  0xf520       c7 59 e4 5c 90 77 50 aa 73 09 48 75 e8 e6 7d e6 c2 ff 1c d2
  00000008 8     0x8001  0x6d4ec      9c 06 9d 06 76 52 86 d8 e6 df ae 54 31 70 ac 01 63 6c f0 33
  00000009 9     0x8001  0xa64c       1d 18 53 55 81 5b f6 4c 45 71 71 35 e6 54 03 3b ab 0c 93 bc
  0000000A 10    0x8001  0x7778       aa 6b 00 01 47 dd 12 c8 38 e4 0e 58 b2 5d 3f 5f 51 05 85 f8
  0000000B 11    0x8001  0x4a94       ff f7 be 43 36 43 35 d5 56 8b 10 75 90 33 29 b6 2e bb ad e6
  0000000C 12    0x8001  0x248c       3f 9f 7a c8 47 ae 7b c8 91 f0 ba ac 3d 51 9b d8 f1 a4 d1 aa
  0000000D 13    0x8001  0x7f330      ce d7 bc b5 bf 80 8c 32 0b 5c 07 87 a5 e8 ea b6 4a 09 22 79
  0000000E 14    0x8001  0x27910      34 0c 7b 14 72 86 36 76 65 27 bb 61 03 4e cd 47 be a7 50 b7
TMD signed by Root-CA00000001-CP00000004 using RSA-2048: fa d4 bd 78 3b 89 8b 5e 8a ba 20 03 35 24 5c ae f6 89 4f c1 [OK]

Bushing 22:29, 23 March 2008 (PDT)

How do we know?

How do people know that this IOS will block trucha-signed discs? Also, this would affect the current homebrew channel created by bushing? 201.66.108.6 18:37, 23 March 2008 (PDT)

bushing and marcan messed around with it. I'd assume they hacked together something to use/load the IOS37 and tested sign-checking functions. Also, the homebrew channel was created by marcan. bushing just taped it AFAIK :P --ProdigySim 20:27, 23 March 2008 (PDT)
I disassembled it and saw the fixed hash-checking code; Marcan installed IOS37 and wrote a program to test it (as mentioned above). Bushing 22:29, 23 March 2008 (PDT)

PAL availability

could it be that the ios upgrade is only available in usa? me and some other guys here can't fetch it. i have a pal wii, location germany? Robertle 11:17, 24 March 2008 (PDT)

That could be it; I'm PAL/UK. Muzer 11:21, 24 March 2008 (PDT)
i was just on #wiidev and people talked about that issue too. speculation was that the update was splitted. first they released the wii-shop/wii-ware update. the night later the ios37 upgrade. could be that for people who updated later, these updates were combined. Robertle 12:31, 24 March 2008 (PDT)
This part should be clear! Is it out in PAL or not? LukeNL 10:14, 25 March 2008 (GMT+1)
No, not yet! There are no updates available at the moment (PAL/DE) Robertle 04:12, 25 March 2008 (PDT)
When using Title Lister it shows that the IOS37 is already on my EU/PAL Wii. Can anyone confirm this on their EU/PAL Wii? robertle 08:24, 6 April 2008 (PDT)
I cannot confirm this. I have an IOS36 on my German/PAL Wii but no ISO37. And I have installed the latest update. Correction: I have an IOS37 on my Wii. Tz 16:05, 27 April 2008 (PDT)
Is this measured using my Title Lister? If so, please paste the full output up somewhere. Thanks! Bushing 23:05, 27 April 2008 (PDT)
I tested the Title Lister on my PAL Wii and can CONFIRM that IOS 37 is installed on my Wii. Info: I played Mario Kart Wii before. DarkChris 14:36, 28 April 2008 (GMT+1)
I can also confirm this for PAL and have had it for some time now, since the first version of a working title lister was out anyway Cboomf 09:49, 28 April 2008 (PDT)
I just uploaded a new image showing IOS37 has arrived in EU. The App used is bushings Title Lister. System update was done on 24 March 2008. --robertle 06:13, 9 May 2008 (PDT)

Corrupted Files message

I just got the "The system files are corrupted" message out of nowhere, but turning off the wii and turning it back on again had it working fine. Should I be worried?--Nathew 06:19, 29 May 2008 (PDT)

Quite a few people have had that, I doubt it's a problem. Muzer 08:04, 29 May 2008 (PDT)

Updated News Inconsistent??

3. October 23, 2008: Every IOS has the signing bug fixes now)
4. The only reason this info is public is because we're watching Nintendo closely. It does not affect you.

#3 and #4 seem to contradict, no?