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::::::Dashxdr: I believe what teuidj is saying is that a WAD file is simply a container, and there is no real reason to use it to contain the contents of a channel. Its the contents that matter, and the WAD is extracted by a WAD installer anyway, so it makes more sense just to embed the actual channel contents in the installer binary, rather than a WAD. And there's no need to pack a WAD therefore. However the problem with that is it makes life hard for the end user, if the contents of a channel must be packed in a binary, rather than just dropping a WAD on the SD card and installing it. But WADs are the distribution method of choice for warez VC/WW, so any sort of installer for them is facilitating warez. I'm not trying to take either side in this argument, just trying to clarify some stuff. --[[User:SifJar|SifJar]] 20:10, 22 November 2010 (CET)

::::::Dashxdr: I believe what teuidj is saying is that a WAD file is simply a container, and there is no real reason to use it to contain the contents of a channel. Its the contents that matter, and the WAD is extracted by a WAD installer anyway, so it makes more sense just to embed the actual channel contents in the installer binary, rather than a WAD. And there's no need to pack a WAD therefore. However the problem with that is it makes life hard for the end user, if the contents of a channel must be packed in a binary, rather than just dropping a WAD on the SD card and installing it. But WADs are the distribution method of choice for warez VC/WW, so any sort of installer for them is facilitating warez. I'm not trying to take either side in this argument, just trying to clarify some stuff. --[[User:SifJar|SifJar]] 20:10, 22 November 2010 (CET)

:::::@SifJar Thanks for that information. The thing I see is that the process one must go through to create a channel for the Wii is cryptic and poorly documented. It is easy to follow the warez / VC/WW path, so people go that way. But I want to follow an open source road all the way and I want to be able to create things myself. WiiMC has an installer. It was provided by some associate of the author of WiiMC, as a courtesy. I want it for such things to be trivial to do, without having to say please or thank you. It's not there yet. I don't give a rat's ass about the potential for use in warez / piracy (and besides, that "battle" is lost already, pirates PWN'd the Wii long ago, can't we face reality already?). I'm only after freedom. WADs are established, that much is obvious. I want a path that lets me create channels and install them, using non-M$ related open source tools, and if the WAD format is used, that's fine. One clear advantage is being able to leverage a lot of existing tools. Another note, the approach of making a custom installer for each application is ridiculous, everyone has to reinvent the wheel. Why not replace WiiBrew's apps/* structure with apps/*.WAD, and WiiBrew just launches the contents of a WAD without it having to even be installed as a channel? One would get the cool animating logos and sound effects. And a built in function of the HomeBrew channel could be to install a WAD as a channel. I'm just thinking out loud here. [[User:Dashxdr|Dashxdr]] 21:31, 22 November 2010 (CET)

:::::@SifJar Thanks for that information. The thing I see is that the process one must go through to create a channel for the Wii is cryptic and poorly documented. It is easy to follow the warez / VC/WW path, so people go that way. But I want to follow an open source road all the way and I want to be able to create things myself. WiiMC has an installer. It was provided by some associate of the author of WiiMC, as a courtesy. I want it for such things to be trivial to do, without having to say please or thank you. It's not there yet. I don't give a rat's ass about the potential for use in warez / piracy (and besides, that "battle" is lost already, pirates PWN'd the Wii long ago, can't we face reality already?). I'm only after freedom. WADs are established, that much is obvious. I want a path that lets me create channels and install them, using non-M$ related open source tools, and if the WAD format is used, that's fine. One clear advantage is being able to leverage a lot of existing tools. Another note, the approach of making a custom installer for each application is ridiculous, everyone has to reinvent the wheel. Why not replace WiiBrew's apps/* structure with apps/*.WAD, and WiiBrew just launches the contents of a WAD without it having to even be installed as a channel? One would get the cool animating logos and sound effects. And a built in function of the HomeBrew channel could be to install a WAD as a channel. I'm just thinking out loud here. [[User:Dashxdr|Dashxdr]] 21:31, 22 November 2010 (CET)