Talk:Smash Stack

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Thank God that this works after the 4.2 update. --PotentialExperience

This will probably work forever AFAIK. Nintendo cannot modify the contents of Wii game discs. They also can't legally modify the contents of SD Cards. --Gameboy13 19:55, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Correct. But sign your comments ;). Xuzz 02:07, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
Oh, I'm sure Nintendo will try deleting Smash Stack from SD cards. Thing is, how can they delete it from the SD card when we can put the card in -after- the System Menu exits? They'd have to be a lot more clever then they are right now to kill this. Kmeisthax 21:56, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Cleaver like us? Let's think of what kinds of applications we have that keeps running after something else is booted. Yup, it's possible.--henke37 12:11, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Possible? Sure. Probable? Doubt it. At most, some ingenious coder (Probably good old Comex) will probably find some way to block Nintendo from the SD card. -- Hyperman 20:00, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
They could release a new version which corrects that problem. It will not change the old version, but the newer versions could have the exploit removed.Ness and Sonic 21:06, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
The only thing Nintendo has to do is release an update disabling SD card support, and not only Smash Stack, but all exploits won't work anymore. DoctorKirby (talk) 03:39, 18 December 2012 (CET)

So this ONLY works with the US NTSC game? Not EU/AUS PAL game? Damn. --Master5o1 02:03, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, it would be useful to have an unpatchable exploit for PAL Wiis too Crundy 20:08, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
I'm sure if it was an issue comex could release a new version Xuzz 05:12, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
A bit of a bump but PAL would make hacking 99% UNBEATABLE. I also really need it cuz I have 4.3. --Sade1212 Hi. 18:06, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Please make one for PAL !!!. --tboss 12:15, 19 August 2010


I get a weird exception error or code dump when trying to load Smash Stack. Any help, I'd thank you. Mp3c 05:20, 14 October 2009 (UTC)


Why not open source? Don't tell me to make it hard for Nintendo who have great debugging facilities to discover the bug. Decrypted the stuff, it's clear from the binary that it uses twilight hack's sources. Maybe someone can work on the PAL version of this if it was open source. I R on 21:17, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Best exploit?

What is the highest version this can work on? What is the exploit that works on the highest version?

Actually works on any NTSC or NTSC-J version.--tboss, Wii 4.3, waiting for PAL Smash Stack... 09:20, 16 October 2010 (CEST)

SDHC compatible?

It does not say if SDHC cards will work. Can anyone confirm or deny if they do work so we can update accordingly? --HACKhalo2 16:04, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

SDHC cards don't work in Brawl (or other older games that read SD cards). The page says, Peripherals Loads files from the Front SD slot, not Loads files from SDHC cards in the Front SD slot. --bg4545 22:49, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Disc damage?

I used this yesterday and it worked. Today, I got a message saying it was unable to read the Brawl disc before it started up. Did it damage the disc, or does the lens/disc just needs to be cleaned again? My Wii's system menu is 4.2 American and I got it new December 25, 2007.Ness and Sonic 14:38, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind, it started working again after I cleaned the lens. It is a weird coincidence that my Wii had problems with Super Smash Brother Brawl after I used Stack Smash.Ness and Sonic 00:04, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

IOS error message

when the 4.2 update was released i was stipid and hit update, then my wii got bricked. I sent my wii in to nintendo for $85 and got it back today. Now i am excellent with the homebrew installer and used smashstack to use the latest hackmii elf file. Also my wii is in the usa ntsc version. Once it was loaded up it said "There is no known vurnable IOS on the wii" so i guess nintendo put some new IOS on my wii when i sent it in so that i can not mod it again. If anybody can help me please do. User:TH3 GUITAR H3R0 18:44, 29 June 2010

I assume you now have System Menu 4.3. All you have to do is wait for the next HackMii Installer. Also, this has nothing to do with Smash Stack other than you ran it. --bg4545 04:23, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Balanced Brawl

Someone has made a version of this exploit which works with NTSC and PAL [1]. I don't have SSBB so I can't test it. Anyone with a PAL console and disk who can give it a go and see if it works? Crundy 12:58, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

I don't think this does the same thing as Smash Stack. From what I can see, it just loads custom textures for characters in Brawl. Phlum 17:56, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, all I can see is that it has Bannerbomb in it and there isn't any kind of Smash Stack. --bg4545 19:43, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
Just following up, the PAL archive for Balanced Brawl contains only Bannerbomb. The NTSC archive contains Smash Stack and the Twilight Hack. I can only assume that the directions shown are for NTSC only and for PAL you must use Bannerbomb. --bg4545 04:13, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
Bugger. I knew it was some kind of custom texture hack, but I assumed they had modded the hack to get it to work on PAL systems. Oh well. Still no news of a PAL version then I take it? For PAL users on 4.3 it's only Indiana Pwns that still works now. Crundy 13:42, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

.elf file

I'm unsure if I'm supposed to place the entire hackmii installer folder into the root of the SD card, or ONLY boot.elf. Could someone tell me?

Also, this works on 4.3U, right? Using hackmii v0.7? OzzyOzrock 03:35, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Just the "boot.elf" --bg4545 04:09, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Smash Stack for NTSC-J

Y.S. has release Smash Stack for NTSC-J. supported smash brothers X (J) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nekokabu (talkcontribs)

Added to the page. --bg4545 23:03, 19 September 2010 (CEST)

PAL/Korean version

User Pune on irc have made a PAL/Korean version of the exploit. He is currently not in the mood for releasing it. He claims that he is waiting on something secret.--henke37 21:34, 25 February 2011 (CET)

it was released today Troy512 04:13, 3 March 2011 (CET)

WTF? Stupid Smash Service!

I haven't used any wiki in a long time, so sorry if I completely screw up formatting and stuff. Anywho, I got rid of all my custom stages but one, and it won't let me get rid of it. Can you guess what stage it is? Its the stupid stage the smash service gave to me! I haven't played this game in well over 6 months, so shouldn't the stage have been automatically deleted by now? Whatever the case, I need to get rid of it to make smash stack to work, so any help would be greatly appreciated.

Also, I found out the hard way that your not supposed to try and open up the SD card files while in the level editor in SSBB. It crashes the game. Loudly. Samuslovr1 00:59, 3 April 2011 (CEST)

Also, if it helps at all, the stage is dated absurdly. I have no clue what to make of it, but it says it was made/I recieved it on 78/38/2000 280:-528. I have no clue what that is supposed to mean. There is no 78 moneth, and no month has 38 days. Also, this game was not released in 2000. And what about those other numbers? What do they mean? Oh well, I'm gonna see if nintendo can help me... But theres no way that I am gonna mention the reason for me wanting to be rid of the stupid custom stage, which was titled "castle"... something. I can't even remember... Samuslovr1 16:31, 3 April 2011 (CEST)

Oh great now theres two of them >:( Samuslovr1 21:23, 3 April 2011 (CEST)

It probably means the file on your SD card is corrupt. After a lot of use, SD cards tend to get corrupt areas.... Put the SD card in a computer and run scandisk on it. And then delete the offending file. Careful... it may end up "deleting" a lot of files, if a lot of them are corrupt (rather than delete them, it will probably move then to a folder and give it a weird name). At some point, after a lot of use, the whole SD card can become unusable.... It's always a good idea to keep a backup of all the contents of your SD card. --Mr. Reaper 22:12, 3 April 2011 (CEST)

Thanks for the help, but the problem is in the game itself. Here is a video of it: Samuslovr1 22:39, 3 April 2011 (CEST)

Your video is set to private, so nobody can watch it. And the most likely cause is still corrupt files on the SD card (wacky file dates are a strong indication of this), and the problem will not go away until you run scandisk on it. In fact, the corruption will probably continue to get worse until you scandisk it.... In any case, you should be able to delete the file directly from the SD card if you load it on a computer, but I can't really help you with how to do that, since I don't own the game.... --Mr. Reaper 03:44, 4 April 2011 (CEST)

There, fixed the video. My problem is that the stage is on the wii itself. It was obtained through the smash service, and is now undeletable, cannot be sent, and cannot be moved to an SD card. I decided "hey, lets see if I can turn the smash service on, get another stage, and hope it deletes both of them at once after 34 hours". Its been about 23 hours since I tried that, so in an hour or two I'll see if it deleted them. Now I have one stage with a messed up date, and one with a normal date. My guess is that the data stored in the wii got corrupted, in whcich case the only way to fix this would be to delete all of my save game data. Not gonna do that. Nintendo also responded to my email I sent them, and they can't fix it dirrectly, so I'll have to phone the customer support. Argh, this is a lot of work for something so little! Anyways, I'll try formating and fixing my SD card, and wait about 2 hours, then I'll check in to see if it is fixed. Thanks for the help! Samuslovr1 21:01, 4 April 2011 (CEST)

It was worth a try. The smash sevice only deleted one of them. Samuslovr1 22:01, 4 April 2011 (CEST)

Ohhh... the file in the Wii's own memory is possibly corrupt.... Yeah, that's a tough one. And kinda scary -- having corrupt things in Wii memory can't be a good thing, heh. I know there's an option to format the Wii system memory, but I don't really know what all that will affect. You may be able to transfer all your save game data and channels to an SD card, then format the Wii memory from the Wii Settings menu, then copy the save files back from the SD to the Wii (and re-download channels). At your own risk, of course, heh (Nintendo may tell you to do the same thing). But it will be worth it to get homebrew on your Wii! --Mr. Reaper 02:28, 5 April 2011 (CEST)

Yeah, I am going to format Brawls data only, and hope that fixes it. I don't see why it wouldn't. But thats my last resort. I'm going to talk to a Nintendo representitive later today (hopefully) and see if they can possibly help me. Then again I haven't played brawl in a long time, and I only ever play it with friends, so I guess I could just use hacks to get all of my characters and stages back. Also, as a precaution, I've already backed up all of my pictures and replays as well. Still, formating Brawl would mean losing all of those records... I dunno, I'll make a decision eventually. After about ten minutes of thought, I guess it wouldn't be all that bad to format brawl. I barely ever play it, so I doubt I'll notice anything missing. Still, I shall remember and cherish my memories of it... RIP SSBB. Thatnks for all the help aswell. Samuslovr1 22:21, 5 April 2011 (CEST)

Lol then I thought, hey wait this is stupid! So I went out to blockbuster and rented Lego Batman and used Bathaxx instead. Worked perfectly. And now I have homebrew! Samuslovr1 02:12, 6 April 2011 (CEST)

Glitches Ingame

I'm new to this so if I mess up the formatting then sorry. Well I used Smash Stack successfully on my American disk and Wii, but I wanted to play my Brawl again and something weird happened. When I went to the photos menu, the game kept pressing left (or right) and it just kept going like the controller was jammed on left (or right). I used the wiimote and nunchuck. This happened on the map menu, too. I had my SD card in, I think, and I tried removing the nunchuck. It still did this. I put black in the Nunchuck and tried pressing the other direction. It stayed there like I was pressing 2 directions. If you find this problem after loading smash stack then post it so we can find out what is wrong. Gamblerrur 15:15, 20 February 2012 (CET)gamblerrur

Eject the SD card and try again. DoctorKirby (talk) 03:40, 18 December 2012 (CET)

So, I also noticed a problem with fceugx vbagx snes emu, they all have this problem with scrolling down forever. Thios can be fixed by taking out a plugged in gamecube comtroller while using a wiimote. Maybe brawl is having the same problem? I'll try ejecting the sd card, but I would like to keep it inside the wii most of the time. Any patches or fixed for this? Gamblerrur (talk) 16:45, 17 May 2013 (CEST)

Side Note

If you forget to delete all custom stages off your Wii Memory and so the exploit doesn't trigger, you can do so in the game, then leave the Stage Selection screen and reenter it in order to trigger the exploit. I noticed this on my Wii U when I forgot. --The MAZZTer (talk) 21:48, 7 December 2012 (CET)