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== Ideas for Homebrew-Apps ==
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Would people stop deleting apps without trying to contact the author first! --[[User:DrTwox|DrTwox]] 21:04, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
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:Well, you made the link to your user page, and then you blanked your user page out. [[User:LoganA|LoganA]] 23:52, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
  
Looking for a project??? heres a list of what other users would like to see:
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== Where? ==
===DX-Ball Clone===
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Where do we put requests for homebrew applications, games and libraries? I'd like to see:  
I love the game Dx-ball and would like to see one on the wii. But I will be happier to see Online Highscores.
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* 3d helper library similar to libwiisprite in spririt
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* Functions to do save/load game data from SD card -- I guess this exists. It would be nice to see some standards, then a general save game manager could be created.
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* Real Wii internal memory support to save/load homebrew data.
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* DevKitPro support for WiiBalanceBoard
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* Support for getting Mii data and support for rendering Mii's
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--[[User:PaceMaker|PaceMaker]] 18:42, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
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=== Some info ===
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* Functions to do save/load game data from SD card
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** That's done?
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* DevKitPro support for WiiBalanceBoard
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** http://www.wiiuse.net/forums/viewforum.php?f=3
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--[[User:Crayon|Crayon]] 18:49, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DX-Ball
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== The Walking Dead ==
  
=== Google Earth Clone - Nasa World Wind Port ===
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There are loads of dead projects which haven't been updated since August. I think these should have a special place/category. --[[User:Pinecone|Pinecone]] 17:48, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
I think it would be nice to browse through Google Earth on my TV using the Wiimote... It would also be nice for people that don´t like computers, but like Google Earth (you know, your father would love it!)
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:Is there any way we can timestamp each row in the tables so that we know when the status was current? Or could we flag entries with something like a [citation needed] so that we could politely keep track of which ones should be deleted soon if they don't get updated? --[[User:Mu mind|Mu mind]] 17:57, 29 August 2010 (CEST)
  
I want to work on this project, but I would like some help, even from no-experienced coders.
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== I think there should be a real page dedicated to requests. ==
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Impossible things would be removed, but good ones could be voted on by users. I think this would provide good info/feedback for homebrew developers.--[[User:Funkamatic|<font face="Copperplate Gothic Light"><font color="red">FUNK<font color="black">A</font>MATIC</font></font>]][[User talk:Funkamatic|<font face="Impact"><font color="black"> ~talk</font></font>]] 17:43, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
  
'''What I have so far''': I know where I can get the sattelite imagery... I plan to use the NASA databases, the same used by World Wind. Soon I will code a simple demo to get some imagery from the web and show it on the Wii.
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:That may be a good idea, but while we're on the topic of requests, can you use a normal signature? Red links means the page isn't yet created. Also, using your own font (and inserting what seems to be a non-hyperlinked character in the middle of your name) really takes away from the continuity of the wiki format. -- [[User:MetaFight|MetaFight]] 17:57, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
  
'''Where do I need some help''': I don't know how to use the Wii GX. I have some experience on OpenGL on Windows, but I can´t find a documentation on the Wii GX, and I need to know how to render the textures on a globe, and how to rotate/pan/zoom. I will also need some help on memory management.
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::Yeah I'm pretty good at writing in wiki but I have no idea how we could make polls or some way for people to easily vote for what they want. As for my sig, The text is red and non-created pages are more of a rust-orange-red. I put the black character (which IS hyperlinked) so it wouldn't confuse people as to whether the page was created or not. I think it fits very well with the continuity of the wiki format because it's a customized sig that (at least I THOUGHT) doesn't confuse people. I guess I'll change it a little...
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::Anyways, so let's create this page and link it on the main page.--[[User:Funkamatic|<font face="Copperplate Gothic Light"><font color="black">FUNK</font><font color="red">AMATIC</font></font>]][[User talk:Funkamatic|<font face="Impact"><font color="grey"> ~talk</font></font>]] 15:49, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
  
If you want to help me, leave a comment with your contact info on my [[User talk:Shdwcoder|talk page]]. [[User:Shdwcoder|Shdwcoder]]
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:A request page should not be created. We tried it in the past and it didn't work. <tt>--[[User:Blooper4912|<font style="color:#FF6C0A;">'''Blooper'''</font>]] [[User talk:Blooper4912|<font style="color:black;"><small>(Talk)</small></font>]]</tt> 19:47, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
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::One reason why it doesn't work is often developers (ie: hobbyists!) do what they are capable of and are interested in - not what is in high demand. --[[User:Tantric|Tantric]] 20:10, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
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:::Hmmm. So you guys don't think there are any developers who would want some statistics on what people want? If you say so.--[[User:Funkamatic|<font face="Copperplate Gothic Light"><font color="black">FUNK</font><font color="red">AMATIC</font></font>]][[User talk:Funkamatic|<font face="Impact"><font color="grey"> ~talk</font></font>]] 01:07, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
  
My father gets confused by the toaster, I don't think he'd love it! ;) Seriously though with the number and size of images your talking about you are going to need to figure out an image/texture caching solution before you even start looking at the API. Caching to a USB storage device may work but at a maximum burst speed of 12Mbps I wouldn't hold my breath. --[[User:Nliwilson|nliwilson]] 12:32, 10 June 2008 (CEST)
 
  
=== Textviewer ===
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== Beta Testing ==
''Description'': A text viewing app, plain and simple.
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Quick question - is there a list of dedicated beta testers? I understand that the point might be that you test it yourself and when you think it is ready, release it to the world then fix problems as they come in, but I think that good games could be missed as they are picked up too early by the community. [[User:Steaky1212|Steaky1212]] 08:31, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
  
''Motivation'': If I work at my PC and can't use it at that moment to view a documentation, i could watch it instead on my Wii.
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Those who beta test homebrew most likely have the beta tester template on their userpage, like mine.  --[[User:Williamdude1|Williamdude1]] 06:40, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
 
 
''Controlled by'': Wiimote
 
* Select file to view
 
** '''A''': choose file or directory
 
** '''B''': go back up a directory level
 
** '''HOME''': back to HBC
 
** '''D-Pad''': use up/down to scroll up/down line by line, use left/right to scroll up/down page by page
 
* Viewmode of a selected file
 
** '''A''': scroll down one page
 
** '''B''': scroll up one page
 
** '''+''': upscale font size
 
** '''-''': downscale font size
 
** '''1''': cycle through encodings (e.g. UTF-8, ANSI, ASCII)
 
** '''2''': cycle through line break methods (CR, CR/LF, LF)
 
** '''HOME''': menu: back to file, choose another file, back to HBC
 
** '''D-Pad''': use up/down to scroll up/down line by line, use left/right to scroll up/down page by page
 
 
 
Is this the correct page to request such an application? If I'm wrong, please correct me. More ideas to control this app can be delivered (things like switching line breaks on/off, in off-mode use d-pad to scroll also left/right).
 
:It sounds like your asking for a Wii port of [http://www.vim.org/ Vim]. --[[User:Nliwilson|nliwilson]] 16:43, 9 June 2008 (CEST)
 
:I'm not sure under what situation you'd actually want to do this? If your wanting to view a text file on the wii it means:
 
::a) You don't have your computer to hand
 
::b) You've already got your text file on your SD Card
 
::c) Getting to your computer/turning the PC on, will be slower than turning the wii on
 
:Have you considered having a small web server on your network and accessing files through the internet channel instead? - [[User:Jamesdodd|JD]] 17:01, 9 June 2008 (CEST)
 
 
 
Seems like this would be nice for READMEs, etc. [[User:aksommerville]]
 
 
 
=== Open Source Ports ===  
 
 
 
====Flight Gear====
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FlightGear
 
 
 
A flight simulator for the Wii, initially mention by [[User:Pinball wizard|Pinball wizard]] and reffered to as WiiFlight
 
 
 
My suggestion is take Flight Gear, kill LOADS and LOADS of graphics processing to where it is polygon and not much detail, and less control options in the cockpit, unless you do a point and click type of thing. [[User:Pinball wizard|Pinball wizard]] 23:35, 9 June 2008 (CEST)
 
 
 
==== Bochs ====
 
http://bochs.sourceforge.net
 
 
 
My suggestion is to allow for front SD, or even better External USB hard drive support to load the disk image, config file, etc. and to have USB keyboard and Wimote support.  It would also be great to be able to use the USB ports, Front SD, Bluetooth, DVD Drive, and integrated wifi from within the emulated machine.  I believe that the Wii should be capable of running Windows 98 fairly well, since the PSP can run Windows 95 with [http://www.hacker.co.il/psp/bochs Bochs]. --[[User:Westy92|Westy92]] 03:26, 10 June 2008 (CEST)
 
 
 
==== FreeDoom ====
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeDoom
 
 
 
==== Frets on fire ====
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frets_on_Fire
 
 
 
I believe that the Guitar Hero 3 extension controller is a must.--[[User:Westy92|Westy92]] 03:28, 10 June 2008 (CEST)
 
 
 
==== Neverball ====
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neverball
 
 
 
==== Stepmania ====
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepmania
 
 
 
Their community aren't that receptive of the idea at the moment http://www.stepmania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13186 [[User:Jamesdodd|JD]] 00:08, 10 June 2008 (CEST)
 
 
 
==== War§ow ====
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War%C2%A7ow
 
 
 
==== Wormux ====
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormux
 
 
 
==== X-Moto ====
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Moto
 
 
 
==== VDrift ====
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vdrift
 
 
 
===Web browser===
 
We know the DS has a few third party browsers now, but it would be nice to see a Wii one!  (Could we port over Firefox or some other open source browser?)
 
 
 
:Is Opera open source? A port of the PC one would be far superior than the Opera Channel, and Firefox, as without all its extensions firefox is nothing, whereas Opera is basically FF + All the good extensions. (sorry if I start a browser war :s). [[User:Muzer|Muzer]] 10:17, 25 April 2008 (PDT)
 
:: No, it's not, and this would be a lot of work for little benefit.[[User:Bushing|Bushing]] 14:26, 25 April 2008 (PDT)
 
:::Opera isn't open source; I disagree that this would be a lot of work for little benefit.  Java support, downloading files, add in plugins and other things you can't do on the Internet Channel which would be definately worth it.
 
::::I think it depends on if you would really use it -- I agree it'd be cool to use Firefox on my Wii, but if I actually want to browse I get my laptop.  And if you don't have access to a computer with the internet, you're not going to be able to get any Wii homebrew anyway!  I do think it'd be cool, and I'd definitely download it if someone put it up, but I agree with Bushing -- not worth it. -- [[User:Karaken12|karaken12]] 11:45, 13 May 2008 (PDT)  &nbsp;&nbsp;(P.S. Sign your posts!  Use <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>)
 
:::::Opera is not free, I mean it's not a free software and it costs 500 wiipoints, port Firefox or a webkit based browser should be a lot of work but it also would be a great alternative to the bad Wii's Opera. [[User:Terloup2|Terloup2]] 10:32, 27 May 2008 (PDT)
 
::::::The internet channel is very limited in terms of content (lack of video plugins, latest flash versions etc etc) and probably won't get updated all that often, so I'd support the idea of a homebrew browser. Especially if it could support local file browsing to allow viewing of files stored on the SD card (good for flash based games). And if it loaded faster, that would be a BIG plus. [[User:Jamesdodd|JD]] 22:02, 10 June 2008 (CEST)
 
:I haven't tried GC-linux, but the framebuffer works, no?  Then surely DirectFB works on Wii, and Mozilla [http://www.directfb.org/wiki/index.php/DFBMozilla works on DirectFB], so a port would not be hard at all.  Of course that would require a Wii network driver for GC-linux.--comex
 
 
 
== Collaboration ==
 
 
 
Thanks for moving this discussion to here [[User:Jamesdodd |JD]], this is much more sensible. That reminds me, personally I'd like to see the Sensible engine ported to Wii, or a clone there of, imagine [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannon_Fodder Cannon Fodder] with Wiimote support...
 
:Anyway, it would be a good idea not only to encourage development through this page but to encourage something home-brew scenes tend to lack, collaboration. I know people do collaborate on projects but it tends to be erratic and close-circled, showing off personal coding skills is all good and well but think what could be achieved if more of the multi-skilled talent on this site where working together?
 
--[[User:Nliwilson|nliwilson]] 14:47, 9 June 2008 (CEST)
 
:No probs... it makes sense that an area for this sort of thing, it just wasn't in the right place before! I know somepeople would suggest the forum being a better place, but I don't like how things get separated like that... [[User:Jamesdodd|JD]] 15:18, 9 June 2008 (CEST)
 

Latest revision as of 17:57, 29 August 2010

Would people stop deleting apps without trying to contact the author first! --DrTwox 21:04, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, you made the link to your user page, and then you blanked your user page out. LoganA 23:52, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Where?

Where do we put requests for homebrew applications, games and libraries? I'd like to see:

  • 3d helper library similar to libwiisprite in spririt
  • Functions to do save/load game data from SD card -- I guess this exists. It would be nice to see some standards, then a general save game manager could be created.
  • Real Wii internal memory support to save/load homebrew data.
  • DevKitPro support for WiiBalanceBoard
  • Support for getting Mii data and support for rendering Mii's

--PaceMaker 18:42, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Some info

--Crayon 18:49, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

The Walking Dead

There are loads of dead projects which haven't been updated since August. I think these should have a special place/category. --Pinecone 17:48, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Is there any way we can timestamp each row in the tables so that we know when the status was current? Or could we flag entries with something like a [citation needed] so that we could politely keep track of which ones should be deleted soon if they don't get updated? --Mu mind 17:57, 29 August 2010 (CEST)

I think there should be a real page dedicated to requests.

Impossible things would be removed, but good ones could be voted on by users. I think this would provide good info/feedback for homebrew developers.--FUNKAMATIC ~talk 17:43, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

That may be a good idea, but while we're on the topic of requests, can you use a normal signature? Red links means the page isn't yet created. Also, using your own font (and inserting what seems to be a non-hyperlinked character in the middle of your name) really takes away from the continuity of the wiki format. -- MetaFight 17:57, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Yeah I'm pretty good at writing in wiki but I have no idea how we could make polls or some way for people to easily vote for what they want. As for my sig, The text is red and non-created pages are more of a rust-orange-red. I put the black character (which IS hyperlinked) so it wouldn't confuse people as to whether the page was created or not. I think it fits very well with the continuity of the wiki format because it's a customized sig that (at least I THOUGHT) doesn't confuse people. I guess I'll change it a little...
Anyways, so let's create this page and link it on the main page.--FUNKAMATIC ~talk 15:49, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
A request page should not be created. We tried it in the past and it didn't work. --Blooper (Talk) 19:47, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
One reason why it doesn't work is often developers (ie: hobbyists!) do what they are capable of and are interested in - not what is in high demand. --Tantric 20:10, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Hmmm. So you guys don't think there are any developers who would want some statistics on what people want? If you say so.--FUNKAMATIC ~talk 01:07, 9 April 2009 (UTC)


Beta Testing

Quick question - is there a list of dedicated beta testers? I understand that the point might be that you test it yourself and when you think it is ready, release it to the world then fix problems as they come in, but I think that good games could be missed as they are picked up too early by the community. Steaky1212 08:31, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Those who beta test homebrew most likely have the beta tester template on their userpage, like mine. --Williamdude1 06:40, 18 October 2009 (UTC)