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I updated and custom IOS-es (cIOS) and channels (DVDx and HBC) are still installed and working. [[User:Sanderevers|Sanderevers]] 07:49, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 
I updated and custom IOS-es (cIOS) and channels (DVDx and HBC) are still installed and working. [[User:Sanderevers|Sanderevers]] 07:49, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
  
== Updating without permission ==
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== Problems ==
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=== Updating without permission ===
 
I wonder... Is Nintendo currently able to update our consoles without notification and permission, or would this new update or a future one add the ability for them to do so? [[User:SMR Kurosan|SMR Kurosan]] 11:48, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 
I wonder... Is Nintendo currently able to update our consoles without notification and permission, or would this new update or a future one add the ability for them to do so? [[User:SMR Kurosan|SMR Kurosan]] 11:48, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 
* They cannot update without permission before, they could only delete crap. '' In addition, we may disable unauthorized or illegal software that has been placed on your Wii Console without notifying you where necessary.'' The revised one just has some words flipped around, which gives them permission to update the Wii without telling us, also. That may have been added by System Menu 3.4. --[[User:FSX|FSX]] 12:10, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 
* They cannot update without permission before, they could only delete crap. '' In addition, we may disable unauthorized or illegal software that has been placed on your Wii Console without notifying you where necessary.'' The revised one just has some words flipped around, which gives them permission to update the Wii without telling us, also. That may have been added by System Menu 3.4. --[[User:FSX|FSX]] 12:10, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
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This automatic update business is starting to scare me... Needs to be addressed as a main issue, or else it might kill homebrew, and possible brick systems in the process.
 
This automatic update business is starting to scare me... Needs to be addressed as a main issue, or else it might kill homebrew, and possible brick systems in the process.
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Scary -Twile
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=== Alledged Channel Killing ===
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I'm not sure but other than the HBC, I'm fine with Nitty getting rid of other (pirated...cough cough) channels
  
 
== Solutions ==
 
== Solutions ==

Revision as of 22:22, 18 November 2008

So I'm assuming I don't quite want to update the System Menu yet? Does it remove custom channels? --Thegamefreak0134 06:23, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

I updated and custom IOS-es (cIOS) and channels (DVDx and HBC) are still installed and working. Sanderevers 07:49, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Problems

Updating without permission

I wonder... Is Nintendo currently able to update our consoles without notification and permission, or would this new update or a future one add the ability for them to do so? SMR Kurosan 11:48, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

  • They cannot update without permission before, they could only delete crap. In addition, we may disable unauthorized or illegal software that has been placed on your Wii Console without notifying you where necessary. The revised one just has some words flipped around, which gives them permission to update the Wii without telling us, also. That may have been added by System Menu 3.4. --FSX 12:10, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

I can't decide if they are giving themselves legal permission to automatically update, or if they have already implemented this functionality into the menu. We'll also need to see how the updates actually work, because if there is still some way to postpone the update, its safe. If it automatically updates without any way to disable it (other than turning internet off on the Wii, which isn't a tasty alternative) then System Menu 3.4 is very dangerous for homebrew indeed.

Of course, the main goal of the team right now is probably to either fix Twilight Hack (again) or find another way into the system through a different game/channel. Still, some way to block the automatic updates (if they are deemed dangerous) is almost necessary at this point. --Thegamefreak0134 18:10, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

This automatic update business is starting to scare me... Needs to be addressed as a main issue, or else it might kill homebrew, and possible brick systems in the process.

Scary -Twile

Alledged Channel Killing

I'm not sure but other than the HBC, I'm fine with Nitty getting rid of other (pirated...cough cough) channels

Solutions

  • CashMan has released Mii Channel Updater rev02. But this only updates your Mii Channel.
  • SoftChip has released an implementation of PatchMii to grab the new benefits from the System Menu 3.4 without actually installing the update. Such as the Mii Channel and IOS50. It's a small adaptation of Tona's IOS51/Shop Channel installer which was used to fight the October 23 Update.
    • We're working on the disassembly of the new system menu now. Hopefully, we'll be able to bring you all the benefits of a working 3.4 without any automatic updating or breakage of the twilight hack.
      • I think I'm gonna wait until then or when another official workaround has been found.

Improved Disc and SD card reading/writing

Has this been verified? If it is indeed true, how noticeable are the changes? I would be curious to hear more about this. SMR Kurosan 12:11, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Is it worth updating? Im worried that if I update Nintendo will one day just disable the HBC. --Graxer 19:02, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

It wouldn't be worth updating, I can tell you that much. I have a feeling that they might've just ripped off SDHC support from homebrew and actually added it to the new IOS50. I can't back this up since I have no SDHC card and I don't want to install the update. Anyways, I don't think the DVD/SD reading support would be very improved.