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Note: discussion about the "old" Homebrew Channel has been moved to [[Talk:Homebrew Channel (archive)]].
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{{notice|'''This page is for the discussion of the Homebrew Channel article itself, not for Homebrew Channel help, commenting, or suggestions.'''
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Please post at the following pages instead:
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* [[Homebrew Channel/Help]]
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* [[Homebrew Channel/Bugs]]
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* [http://forum.wiibrew.org Wiibrew forums]
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==Icons==
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Why aren't you using the Infobox for this article like is being used on all of the others? I can understand that it's somewhat different, but it's displayed inline with the other loaders and most of which have it (though they are a little outdated!) [[User:Jamesdodd|JD]] 14:15, 6 June 2008 (CEST)
Many icons : http://www.wiigen.fr/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=43&topic=5504.0
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== HBC 1.0.6 ==
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Could someone upload 1.0.8 and 1.0.6 for testing purposes. Thanks! [[User:Randomdude|Randomdude]] 06:21, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
  
I just uploaded a small [[Media:Robertle_HBCicons_20080525.tar.gz | Icon Pack]] for the homebrew channel. [[User:Robertle|robertle]] 04:44, 25 May 2008 (PDT)
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== "DVD Method" ==
  
I've created a page for icons at [[Homebrew_Channel/Icons]] and am in the process of uploading icons from both of these setes, as well as from a few other sources.
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I noticed there is currently no information on this page about how the DVD method for installation is performed. Can somebody who is familiar add that? [[User:Hallowizer|Hallowizer]] ([[User talk:Hallowizer|talk]]) 06:39, 14 October 2020 (CEST)
  
== Are Homebrew Channel updates digitally signed? ==
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:@[[User:Hallowizer|Hallowizer]]: It looks like the Homebrew Channel was previously provided as a burnable disc image (it can be seen [https://web.archive.org/web/20080526200123/http://hbc.hackmii.com/download/ in an archived page] but the download links don't work (and I couldn't find any working versions at [https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://hbc.hackmii.com/dist/* this] or [https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://hbc.hackmii.com/get.php* this] or on the live site)).  It's presumably based on [https://hackmii.com/2008/08/open-source-apploader-iso-template/ this template] (which still is live), which looks like a [[signing bug|fakesigned]] disc image that could be modified to launch something else.  That would explain why it doesn't work with [[System Menu 3.3]], and a drivechip would be required for a burned disc image to work.  I don't think it's something that would be feasible to perform nowadays. (Addendum: it looks like the relevant tools for creating such an ISO are found in the github repo (e.g. [https://github.com/fail0verflow/hbc/blob/master/pywii/pywii-tools/injectdol.py injectdol.py])) --[[User:Pokechu22|Pokechu22]] ([[User talk:Pokechu22|talk]]) 21:47, 3 November 2020 (CET)
  
Are there any mechanism in place to make sure Homebrew Channel updates are really from the Homebrew Channel team? [[User:Felix123|Felix123]] 02:38, 25 May 2008 (PDT)
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== Wuphax exploit/loader ==
:Not yet, but we plan on addressing that within the next two releases. [[User:Bushing|Bushing]] 04:42, 25 May 2008 (PDT)
 
  
== Removal..? ==
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Is Wuphax an exploit or loader? It’s at the boundary of being a loader, and it uses an exploit to replace the Mii channel internally. [[User:Hallowizer|Hallowizer]] ([[User talk:Hallowizer|talk]]) 06:01, 10 November 2020 (CET)
 
 
That method still leaves the tickets and such in your data.<br />
 
Are there any plans to have a full uninstaller, or is it just going to stay there until Nintendo decides to take the offensive against it? - <font color="#de0033">[[User:Toumei|トウメイ]]</font>
 
:This was already addressed at http://hbc.hackmii.com/faq.php [[User:Bushing|Bushing]] 04:42, 25 May 2008 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Some potential beta bugs? ==
 
 
 
Thanks for releasing this guys...I can have my Zelda save back on my Wii again :)
 
 
 
That said, I think I've found a couple of issues.
 
* My Ninty LAN adaptor doesn't seem to be supported as the "networking" always fails. No biggie for now, but it'd be nice to mention it somewhere to save others trying if it's not actually supported for now.
 
:iirc we had reports of a working lan adapter. recheck the network settings in sysmenu/options. does the icon on the lower right stop blinking? [[User:Dhewg|dhewg]] 05:38, 25 May 2008 (PDT)
 
 
 
* Booting ELFs from the menu fails when my GameCube memory card is in the slot. There's at least a note about this in one of the readmes/FAQs, but I'm intrigued as to why loading from the SD fails when it's present? It seems to load the icons and meta data fine, but just sits at 0% when I actual click the load button.
 
:thats a bug in the libraries used, should be fixed soon [[User:Dhewg|dhewg]] 05:38, 25 May 2008 (PDT)
 
 
 
* Doesn't respond to the power button on the remote. Trivial, but just something I noticed.
 
:yes, we know about that one too, we'll look into it [[User:Dhewg|dhewg]] 05:38, 25 May 2008 (PDT)
 
 
 
* When I press the home button, the channel shows me an IP adress "192.168.0." - the last byte (3) is missing. [[User:Tz|Tz]] 06:26, 25 May 2008 (PDT)
 
 
 
* The apps load fine, but they can't find the roms directory, and I keep getting an error that's something like "Exception occurred!"
 
 
 
[[User:Mr jrt|Mr jrt]] 04:40, 25 May 2008 (PDT)
 
:thanks for the feedback!
 
 
 
== This is the way forward ==
 
 
 
There's no doubt in my mind that this is the 'next step' on from Twilight Hack, if you haven't downloaded it you're missing out. Outstanding work!
 
:It's obvious this is geared and ready for app encapsulation (.wiibrew?), this is a good thing as it simplifies matters for end users and gives developers more creative control over they're content.
 
:What I'm wondering is, and I realise I may have overlooked a discussion somewhere, what's the status of an end user friendly delivery system? To you and I installing Twilight Hack and then using it to install the Homebrew Channel may seem straightforward but to Mr and Mrs "afraid of our PC" it may seem intimidating.
 
:I fully appreciate that this is in no way a simple matter, I'm just wondering how it could be achieved, especially without provoking Nintendo? Or is keeping suited to people who understand the risks and intent the way not to provoke Nintendo? [[User:Nliwilson|nliwilson]] 06:15, 25 May 2008 (PDT)
 
::You want a http://jailbreakme.com style site? [[User:Felix123|Felix123]] 06:30, 25 May 2008 (PDT)
 
:::Not entirely sure what you mean Felix123? I'm not asking for, or trying to steer toward anything I'm asking the questions you see on screen, nothing more, nothing less. If the answer is "it's not a priority" or "no plans for the time being" I'm perfectly happy with that, I have no agenda either way. [[User:Nliwilson|nliwilson]] 06:50, 25 May 2008 (PDT)
 
::::I can't even figure out what you are asking -- please give an example of what "an end user friendly delivery system" might look like. [[User:Bushing|Bushing]] 06:57, 25 May 2008 (PDT)
 
:::::Ironically that's kind of what I'm asking you!:D jailbreakme.com is one example, alternatively something like an install CD image (no simple matter I know). By "end users" I mean in terms of the industrial phrase, People who want to be able to stick a disk in and have an install wizard pop up, I know this has not been a focus so far but an outstanding UI and moves toward an app encapsulation format would seem to nod in that direction. If you're not sure what I'm asking that suggests its actually been not been a focus whilst developing this Homebrew Channel and that's my answer. [[User:Nliwilson|nliwilson]] 07:18, 25 May 2008 (PDT)
 
::::::Well, you'd only be able to have an "easier" installation (presumably without SD cards?) if someone found a vulnerability in the Internet Channel. A CD image to burn would only work if the Wii was chipped. Of course the question is, why would Mr and Mrs "afraid of our PC" want homebrew in the first place? And would they check this site before updating their Wii or running new games? Almost certainly not. Cue a shiny white brick and emails of complaint. So it's probably better for both them and us that they don't tinker around right now. [[User:Sgspencer|Sgspencer]] 07:25, 25 May 2008 (PDT)
 
::::::Sorry, that website is an easy way to hack iPhones. To install homebrew apps on an iPhone, you just need to visit the site using the iPhone. [[User:Felix123|Felix123]] 07:33, 25 May 2008 (PDT)
 
Sorry if I caused any confusion, coming from a home and small business support background I can tell you that, for example, DSGi's "Digital Support" department in the UK regularly got calls from people who can't understand why this thing they found on the web doesn't work on they're PS2/PSP or why this thing they found on the web turned they're PS2/PSP in to a door stop and why Sony won't repair it.
 
There is a demand from people who'd struggle with simply installing Twilight Hack and thinking end user support ways I thought that could be something you where aiming at, if anything this is a compliment to just how good this beta is. This has taken up a bit of space because I failed to to explain myself clearly sorry,please delete my entries if appropriate.
 
 
 
== Wiimote Flicker ==
 
 
 
First i wanna say im sorry for my english.
 
 
 
Well i have a problem with the Homebrew Channel, basically everything works Perfectly and you guys outdone yourselves, it really is excelent, but what want to ask is if it's normal that my Wiimote is always flickering, i mean, when o point to the screen the hand appears and i can move it perfectly but many times if i move it goes up and down, and disapears and appears, like if was flickering ?
 
 
 
Thank you
 
:Do you have other light sources around?[[User:Felix123|Felix123]] 07:04, 25 May 2008 (PDT)
 
:Does it also happen in the main Wii menu? Wipe the end of the wiimote? Sit closer to the TV? [[User:Sgspencer|Sgspencer]] 07:12, 25 May 2008 (PDT)
 
:I have the same problem, and it doesn't happen in the Wii menu, only in the homebrew channel (and also in the ScummVM menu, games). I think the problem is that my tv is infront of a window, and the wiimote is set to be too sensitive.
 
:it's a problem with the wiiuse code. it's too sensitive to ir-sources. that's afaik something that's being worked on [[User:Adan0s|Adan0s]] 09:33, 25 May 2008 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Installing the Homebrew Channel from the ten-minute demo? ==
 
 
 
I was unable to install the beta7 version directly from the 10-min limit preview, so I worked around it in this way:
 
I used the preview version to launch a loader, which I then used to launch the installer. If you returned you copy of the Twilight Princess and have the demo installed, you too can join in all the fun!
 
 
 
== Wiiload? ==
 
 
 
There was no guide on how to set it up.
 
 
 
:From the FAQ: "You need to set an environment variable -- WIILOAD -- to point to your Wii's IP address. For example, on a Windows system, you would go to control panel -> system -> advanced -> environment variables to set it up, and on a Linux or Mac OS X system you would do "export WIILOAD=tcp:192.168.0.30" (if that was your Wii's IP address; check this by hitting the Home button on your WiiMote.) For the ease of use on windows we suggest creating a shortcut to wiiload.exe on your desktop, and then you can simply drag&drop your file on the shurtcut to send it over. " It's a command-line application; there's no GUI. To see the built-in help, run the command prompt and cd to the directory (for example, cd "c:\wii\wiiload\" and then do ".\wiilaod". [[User:Flyne|Flyne]] 09:32, 25 May 2008 (PDT)
 
 
 
== So this is why I couldn't - get on - all day - yesterday. ==
 
 
 
There were so many people down - load - ing this. [[User:Bletotum|Bletotum]]
 
 
 
EDIT: Need step by step instructions for WiiLoad. (Wireless, not USB gecko.)
 
 
 
== SendElf ==
 
 
 
I have written a [[:Image:SendElf.zip|windows GUI client for the TCP loading part]], no more messing around with the command line!--[[User:Henke37|henke37]] 12:06, 25 May 2008 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Found a Bug ==
 
 
 
Once, when I loaded the homebrew channel, the screen flickered for a second, and then the forward arrow jumped to under the programs, this also happens on every subsequent program screen, and doesn't fix itself until you restart your wii. [[:Image:Bug.jpg|Click here]]
 
 
 
Also, would it be possible to return to the wii menu without the safety screen?
 

Latest revision as of 07:01, 10 November 2020

Why aren't you using the Infobox for this article like is being used on all of the others? I can understand that it's somewhat different, but it's displayed inline with the other loaders and most of which have it (though they are a little outdated!) JD 14:15, 6 June 2008 (CEST)

HBC 1.0.6

Could someone upload 1.0.8 and 1.0.6 for testing purposes. Thanks! Randomdude 06:21, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

"DVD Method"

I noticed there is currently no information on this page about how the DVD method for installation is performed. Can somebody who is familiar add that? Hallowizer (talk) 06:39, 14 October 2020 (CEST)

@Hallowizer: It looks like the Homebrew Channel was previously provided as a burnable disc image (it can be seen in an archived page but the download links don't work (and I couldn't find any working versions at this or this or on the live site)). It's presumably based on this template (which still is live), which looks like a fakesigned disc image that could be modified to launch something else. That would explain why it doesn't work with System Menu 3.3, and a drivechip would be required for a burned disc image to work. I don't think it's something that would be feasible to perform nowadays. (Addendum: it looks like the relevant tools for creating such an ISO are found in the github repo (e.g. injectdol.py)) --Pokechu22 (talk) 21:47, 3 November 2020 (CET)

Wuphax exploit/loader

Is Wuphax an exploit or loader? It’s at the boundary of being a loader, and it uses an exploit to replace the Mii channel internally. Hallowizer (talk) 06:01, 10 November 2020 (CET)